John D. Giorgis wrote:

In a world population by such nations as the DPRK, the
People's Republic of China, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya,
Turkmenistan, and Zimbabwe - to call *the United States* the most visible
human rights outlier should leave everyone absolutely speechless.

But it is the most *VISIBLE* - it's nowhere near being the worst, and is still a net force for good in terms of human rights, but the lost human rights in the USA, by virtue of the openness of American society, are by far the most visible. This in itself wouldn't be bad, except that the USA itself, and the rest of the world, look to America for leadership in these things because of their past example...

Of course, one of these examples is of Australia which if you think about Mr.
Hoh's previous statements is just a little bit funny.    Is Australia
*really* seeking cover for crackdowns on human rights from the actions of
Mr. Bush?

Yep - he's way off base here - our illegal immigrant problems are nothing to do with either 9/11 or GW, and the new approaches to dealing with it are a result of increased numbers of illegal immigrants, (and indeed more being killed by shoddy people smugglers) rather than a sudden need to change human rights provisions.

Cheers
Russell C.


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