> -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Pensinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:00 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Two Towers Extended DVD > > > Reggie wrote: > > > > Quite possibly, but it depends on why that person nearly walked out. > > > > Reggie Bautista > > Details? Maru > > > You asked for it 8^). Deploy rant mode.... > > It's been almost a year since I've seen it, so I can't remember > everything, but several things stuck in my mind. The Warg > battle was not > in the book, not necessary to develop the story and didn't > add anything to > it other than another action sequence. Likewise with Aragorn > falling in > the river. Gimli as comic relief didn't work for me at all. > I thought > that the Ents were going to be cool when Pipin and Merry > first met up with > Treebeard, but the Entmoot was poorly done (were there more > than six Ents > in attendance?)
And it took more than a few hours as portrayed. and the result was contrary (and far inferior) to the > book. I'll interject here and say I was disappointed in the way they portrayed the search party finding Gandalf in the forest. Eomer's story was inexplicably altered for the worse. > Theodin's > awakening was overdone as was his reaction to his son's death at the > funeral mounds. All the stuff with Elrond and Arwen was overdone and > stupid. True.. All one really has to know is that Arwen gave up immortality for Aragon, and Elrond was pissed. They could have illustrated why Aragon wandered for 20+ years as a Ranger. This is more interesting to me. However, these facts were in the appendixes of the book, and not part of the story directly. It does not add much to the story. > > The best part of the movie was the Frodo/Sam/Gollum thread, but they > managed to screw that up at the end by changing the story again. The > ending was in the wrong place and completely ruined the story > for me. If > the movie was too long to end it in the right place, they > should have just > gotten rid of all the crap they made up and ended it in the > right place. True, they spend far too much time building up the drama of the impending Helm's deep war. The whole scene with Aragon and the young boy was stupid. The place to end is that Frodo is dead, Sam is lost, orcs everywhere, and Gollem on the loose. I mean, what a cliffhanger! Instead, Frodo will be dead for only a few minutes screen time in the final movie. > > The frustrating thing is that all the elements were there to > make a great > movie - the Orcs, Orthanic, Helms Deep, Edoras, Minas Turith, > the Gates of > Mordor, the Marshes of the Dead, Fangorn, etc. etc., and the > actors were > all excellent. What about the ending of the Helm's deep conflict. Gandalf arrives, they rush down the hill and the orcs lose. Why deviate from the real story? I would have rather seen the interpetation of the Ent's nighttime wholesale killing of the Orc army, piling up the bodies and lighting them on fire.... Instead, one gets the feeling that orcs are easily defeated if you take them by a surprise flanking attack, instead of everyone thinking, damn, if it wasn't for a bunch of pissed off trees, the humans would be all be dead already. God help the humans when they meet up with the orcs again! All they had to do was tell the story, but > they f**ked it > up. It was that much more disappointing after how well they > followed the > story in TFotR. I agree. I left the theater mad. There was no real good reason for any of the changes they made. The story is so much better than what they did portray. > > Now they've got to spend a good bit of time finishing book > two in movie > three and I'm sure they'll have to axe a bunch of stuff out > of that to > make it short enough. No Scouring of the Shire, I'll bet, or if it's > there it will be severely truncated. > I feel there is just too much in the last book to do in 120 minutes, especially since they have the last part of Two Towers to complete. While critics are praising the movie already, I suspect I will be disappointed. Nerd From Hell > If I had the patience to watch it again I could probably write a much > longer and more specific rant, but you get the idea. > > Stow rant mode... > > -- > Doug > _______________________________________________ > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
