In a message dated 12/26/2003 8:59:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> Two things, because I have to go. How is importing gas from Turkey 
> > cheaper? On a strict price basis, 117 is less than 227, but is it safer, 
> > shorter, less manpower/equipment needed? Should the 
> government auditor 
> > be fired or prosecuted for revealing internal documents?
> 
Point 1 _ There seems to be no debate on the fact that Halliburton overcharged. Even 
the incredibly pro-business Bush administration is not making your claim. Halliburton 
overcharged period.

Point 2 - Exactly why should the auditor be fired? If he/she worked for Halliburton it 
was his/her obligation to do an unbiased audit and report it to the company. That the 
results of this audit became public would not be his/her responsibility and unless 
she/he went to the press and governmemt with the info after being ignored by 
Halliburton. As Doug states if this were the case the person would clearly be 
protected by "Whistle Blower" laws. If in fact the audit was sent to goverment and 
made public by the government then there can be no crime.

I am still waiting for any one of the conservatives on the list to state up front that 
overcharging is a crime that must be pursued. 

I know it is tough for you guys so let me offer you a suggestion. I will simply 
substitute Rush for Bill Clinton and provide you with the formulation that us lefty 
commie liberals used.

"I do not condone the actions of Clinton -Limbaugh. They were reprehensible and no 
glib emotional apology is acceptable given that Bill-Rush did not come clean until 
caught in his lie/illegal drug purchase. Having said this I do not believe that these 
actions warrent impeachment/crimal prosecution. I do believe that given his position 
as president/spokesman for the right that his actions represent are especially 
reprehensible"

I have no problem with principled conservatism. I think it completely reasonable to 
hold that individuals are responsible for their own behavior and that government 
should not intefer with individual actions or the market economy. Opposition to 
abortion gay marriage etc are all legitimate positions. I do not hold them but I can 
respect those who hold these views just as I can respect people who are principled 
communists or socialists. But too often conservatism is espoused not as a political 
philosophy but a moral stance. Frankly I think John and Gautam (to a lesser extent) 
start with the premise that the right is good and the left is bad. So any action by 
the right can be defended as either principled or a necessary expediant to achieve a 
goal. But actions are taken by the right or the left. They are taken by indiviudals of 
the right or the left. And these indiduals and groups inevitably act in what they see 
as their self interest regardless of their political philosophy. One need only point 
to the messy and in some cases dispicable behavior of several prominent "pro-family" 
conservatives to understand this point
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