> Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Trent Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Nope.  If you are insolvent you should not be
> > treated.  
> > 
> > Open access to emergency medicine is the back door
> > is basically a disguised 
> > form of socialized medicine.  It forces solvent
> > people to take on your 
> > charity case whether they want to or not.
 
> Well Trent then I guess I won't depend on you should
> my life ever be threatened. While we're at it, lets
> get rid of unemployment support, wellfare, and any
> other government "charities" since we're being
> forced to provide for those leeches too...

I think one of the yardsticks of how "civilized" a
culture is can be deduced from how it handles its
downtrodden or unfortunate members; if the deformed or
mentally retarded or just plain
temporarily-overwhelmed are tossed onto the garbage
heap, that denotes both a lack of compassion and -
from a practical standpoint - definite economic
short-sightedness.  Frex, a recent list discussion
about various gov't. agencies employing mentally
retarded persons: those persons are gainfully
employed, tend to be loyal and steadfast in repetitive
work positions, and would require significant social
services if they did not have these jobs.  

I like Michael's presentation of a sort of revamped
CCC, which I think would provide gainful employment,
foster pride and self-sufficiency (assuming some
training is provided where needed), and help prevent
crime such as theft and burglary.  I do agree that
*creating and maintaining* a perpetually needy
population is counter-productive, but helping the
momentarily-fallen to regain their feet, and the
permanently-disabled to contribute to society somehow,
is a worthy endeavor.

Debbi
Baron Got Up On The Wrong Side Of The Stall Today Maru
(fortunately I didn't have to take him out on the trail!)

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