Gautam wrote:

Because, of course, it is personal.

No, it's not. Not on this end anyway.


I supported the invasion, and not for oil money either.  Your
insistence that only corruption or malice explains the
actions of the Administration

I may have intoned that there is the possibility that corruption or malice are present, but I have never insisted that "only corruption or malice explains the actions of the Administration" I want to know if there was corruption or malice. The Bush administration is one of the most secretive presidencies ever, what are they hiding? Why don't you answer my questions about why they are stonewalling the 9/11 investigation?


suggests that I'm stupid, ignorant, corrupt, or malign.

No, it does not. It means we disagree about what we see, that's all. It means that though we probably won't change each others minds because we are so polarized, we may have an influence on others in this forum who are not so polarized. In that, you are doing yourself a disservice by making the argument personal.


I'm pretty sure I'm not any of those.

I'm certain of it.


Now, it's possible for honest people to disagree on whether the invasion was a good
idea or not. But as long as you insist that it _isn't_, it _is_ personal.

??? reword, please.


I volunteered to go to Baghdad. So did quite a few friends of mine. We
didn't do it so that people like you could tell us we were stooges for the oil lobby.

What are you saying here Guatam? That I shouldn't argue with you because you volunteered to go to Iraq? That I'm wrong because you're going to Iraq? That you're right because you're going to Iraq?


It seems to me that one of the statements you quoted was right - when
people look at George Bush and Osama Bin Laden and think that _George Bush_ is their enemy, there's
something wrong with them.

But that was just someone's character assassination.


Now, I don't think you're one of those people. But you do seem to be trying to
prove me wrong.

Well I am one of those people that think that the Bush administration is bad news for the U.S. and the world and I and others have documented how and why we think this is so. If that somehow automatically makes me a terrorist in your mind, or even raises a question about my dedication to what this country stands for, I'm sorry, but you're very much mistaken.



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