yeah i ahve to agree with Travis on this one, Anne Rice does tend to have very... "Racey" scenes, however they tend to have no real bearing on the sexual identy of any one character....that being said, it is important as a venue to prove to the lesser of the "Rice" inclinded reader, that the love is so profound that they would share that in a ver intimant way. The sharing of blood between Vamp's is such a medium. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Stephan King
> > >From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Stephan King > >Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:52:15 -0600 > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:16 AM > >Subject: Re: Stephan King > > > > >First of all, Quinn is blatantly bisexual. He > > > says so in the book a couple of times, and Anne tells us in more > >subtle ways > > > herself. > > > >Knowing as we do that Rice does not work from outlines when writing, > >and at the onset does not know in any more than the vaguest of ways > >how the book will progress or end, the matter of Quinns sexuality > >underwent drastic shifts that were quite pointless, illuminated > >nothing, and did not progress the story. > > I don't think it changed at all. Seeing as how Quinn is an Anne Rice > character, existing in Anne's Vampire/Mayfair Universe, his sexuality is so > open as to be comparable to not have a sexual orientation in the first > place. Moreover, it was certainly not pointless for Quinn to explore his > sexuality. It was quite simply an element of the character being human. > > > > > >First Quinn is shown to be a stereotypical pantywaist of the type > >usually accused of being queer (whether it is true or not). At this > >point the reader is led to believe that Quinn is as gay as most of > >Rice's Vampires. Up to this point Quinn shows exactly zero interest in > >women. > > > >Then Quinn has a homosexual experience with Goblin, who is male and a > >ghost. This seems to confirm the readers initial expectations as does > >a scene where Quinn loudly proclaims himself to be gay. > > > >Then Quinn professes great admiration for a male teacher who thinks > >Quinn is "into" him, but says he really is not interested in that kind > >of relationship with this particular person. > > > >Then in somewhat quick succession, Quinn Has sex with and fathers a > >child by a black servant he has known his whole life, has rapturous > >sex with a devious female ghost who was a prostitute in life, and then > >falls instantly in love with mad abandon for a witch who also happens > >to be heir to a massive fortune. > > > >There is a point in the book where Quinns sexuality shifts from > >exclusively homosexual to exclusively heterosexual. And the only time > >Quinn is described as bisexual is during the heterosexual part of the > >story. > > > "Exclusively heterosexual". I think not. By one's own extrapolation, it's > easy to imigane Quinn (pre vampire) having sex with just about anyone. It's > simply a sexed up book, as are all of her books set in this Universe, and > sexuality really has no bounds within it. > > > > > >I think that initially Rice intended for Quinn to fall in love with > >Lestat de Lioncourt (doesn't everyone?), but changed horses in > >midstream. > > But doesn't he fall in love with Lestat anyway? > > > >But you see one must understand, > > > that in Rice's Universe sexuality is everything. Take the Vampires > >for > > > example. Once the transformation from a human to an immortal is > >complete, > > > they no longer have the use of their sexual organs. Yet they retain > >a strong > > > male or female identity. BUT, at the same time this identity is not > > > overshadowed so much as it is blended in with asexual, or perhaps > >more > > > accurately, bisexual behavior. Nearly every character, mortal and > >immortal > > > alike, has absolutely no inhibitions as to who they have sex with. > >It's just > > > her style of writing. And in the case of Quinn, his sexual identity, > >if > > > anything, is actually quite clearcut. More so than may of her > >characters. > > > > > > > >Yes, that is all true. And yet that is why she has become almost a > >parody of herself. > > I do not understand that last statement. Especially since the basis for your > argument was firmly planted in your belief that Quinns sexual identity was > "fumbled". > > > >xponent > >I Have No Penis Yet I Still Feel the Yearning to Use One Maru > >rob > > > <lol> Forgive me for saying so, but that's just.....different. > > -Travis "different yet funny" Edmunds > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca > > _______________________________________________ > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
