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From: "Amanda Marlowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: Stephan King


> A friend had introduced me to King's Gunslinger series recently.
Prior to
> that, I'd read Carrie, The Dead Zone, and The Stand, and decided I
wasn't much
> of a Stephen King fan.
>
> After working through the earlier books in the Gunslinger series, I
came to
> these conclusions:
> 1. King is a better storyteller than he is a writer. His plots can
be
> fascinating and compelling. Unfortunately he indiscriminately adds
details
> about every thing including the kitchen sink, which can make the
writing very
> hard to slog through.
> 2. People are far more interested in good storytelling than they are
in good
> writing, hence King's (and many other popular authors') popularity.
> 3. People who are both good storytellers and good writers are worth
gold.
>
> After reading Wolves of the Calla, I concluded that Stephen King has
managed
> to learn something about good writing over the 40 years or so he's
been
> writing.
> And I'm still not much of a Stephen King fan.
>
> As a writer, however, I do feel he taught me something. In the end,
it's
> usually the storytelling that wins out commercially. Is that what
wins out in
> the end to determine if a book is a classic? In part, yes. The other
factor I
> think makes a classic is how well the author has pinned down basic
human
> nature. I think Shakespeare was considered a hack in his day. But he
knew
> human nature, and made sure we knew he knew it, and we still read
him today.
> Many of today's classics, if written now,  would make today's
writing teachers
> cringe: Some contain sentences so full of modifiers and phrases it's
sometimes
> hard to find the subject and verb. That doesn't stop people from
loving them,
> because the human foibles they are about are still human foibles
today.

Good Post Amanda!

It got me thinking.
Since just about every writer and book I like is invariably slogged
somewhere for one reason or another, after reading your post I
conclude that I don't really give a damn about writing. I usually just
pass writing styles off as indiosyncracies.
What I care about is content. You might summarize my feelings as "Its
the story stupid!"
Sometimes I will read someone who writes sentences that just cruise
into my mind and think"this is good writing". Next think you know some
yahoo is ranting about the awful "writing".
I suppose I'm a bit intolerant of "armchair grammarians". Even worse
to me are the "story structuralists". These are people who can
frequently be heard to say "X doesn't know how to end a story".
If anyone reading this happens to resemble that last remark, let me
clue you in. When you run out of pages, most of the time the story is
over.

Not all wheelchair critics draw my ire though. People who complain
about weak characterization often get my sympathy. When all the women
in a book  resemble either dudes in drag or a crutch for some guys
ego, its a distraction from the story.

But then, I suppose everyone has their bugaboos.




>
> Amanda
> Just my two cents Maru
> (And no, I haven't read King's book on writing yet.)

Its interesting, but not required reading.

xponent
Andy Rooney's Spleen Maru
rob


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