----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jan Coffey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't


> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damon Agretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I also heavily disagree with his assertation that
> > Freedom of Speech defends one's right to use crude
> > language or show inappropriate material where it may
> > be exposed to minors. I think hiding behind this
> > element of the Constitution is disgusting and
> > demeaning to the purpose of that article.
>
> Well then, would it be inapropriate for me to ask you to please
> provide the definition of "Free" and "Speech" which allows "freedom
> of speech" to align with your doctrin?
>
> Also, why would a persons age, or rather why should a persons age
> have anthing to do with their possible exposure?

I realize this thread pretty much stopped at the end of February, but given
that I'm about a thousand messages behind, I want to just toss this idea
into the non-fray.

Freedom of speech is the freedom to express any idea you want to express.
Is there any idea that requires you to drop the f-bomb in order to express
it?  If anyone out there can think of one, I'd really like to hear it.

Freed of speech is not designed to protect specific words.  It's designed to
protect the ability to express any idea, no matter how contrary to
conventional wisdom or current political climate it may be.  In other words,
freedom of speech is not the freedom to speek any word you want, it's
freedom to speek any idea you want.  Since *any* idea can be expressed
without the use of the f-bomb or other obscene language, the constitutional
amendment which protects freedom of speech does not protect use of obcene
words in the expression of that idea.

Are there any lawyers or judges lurking out there?  Perhaps someone with
more experience in constitutional law might want to chime in here.  I'd
really like to know (and I'd be really surprised) if there are any court
rulings which are counter to this argument.

Reggie Bautista


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