>>Mike Lee wrote: 
> > > What about workers who put profit over their own lives?
> >
> >
>> > Huh?
>> 
>> Your assumption is that employers are adults and employees are stupid
>> children unable or unwilling to look out for their own best interests.
>> 
>> There may be cases where hidden hazards cannot be perceived by employees,
>> but these are the exception, not the rule. Employees have a responsibility
>> to refuse to work in conditions they deem too dangerous. When they ignore
>> dangers, then they are putting their own profit over their own lives.
>> 
>> -Mike
>
>That's a great laissez-faire argument, which I might even accept if
>unemployment were sufficiently low that it was clear that employees
>had some other options.  
>
>The present situation is like musical chairs, with jobs as the chairs.
>Some poor sap is going to get stuck with a job that is more dangerous
>than it needs to be.
>
>When the market messes up, and people start dying from risks they 
>did not have a chance to freely accept, then Government SHOULD 
>intervene.
>                   
> ---David
>
>Overly simplistic economic theory, Maru?

I think the safety people on the list will speak to this better
than I will, but there are abuses and checks/balances
well between some of the extremes.  The government
does intervene when someone dies (in a big way
from what I remember hearing years ago).  Part of
the "industry monitoring" I do relates to the OSHA
website.  I wish I could find the announcement
(might be from Jan/Feb time frame) where
OSHA sends out warnings to thousands of
industries with problematic rates, etc.  

but instead- base website is 
www.osha.gove
more at-
http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=NEWS_RELEASES&;
p_id=10786

In all fairness I do see people effectively "trade in
their bodies" for "hard/heavy" jobs that pay well and then
accustom their lifestyle to the overtime pay, etc.......
as well as those that live frugally trying to balance
life and family (barely).  

My personal bias is that ergonomic changes to
make jobs easier/less prone to injuries is a
"gimmie" on cost recovery in many jobs, but
many companies don't make the same 
decisions.  In some ways, with an aging
work force, some of the companies who 
will survive the next several decades may
be those that best navigate profits 
without losing them to injuries/fines.  

Dee
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