Gary, in ugly self-loathing American mode:

> So we aren't like Saddam because our guys are wimps and not 
> bloody enough?

It amazes me what you liberals can say and not think you need to wipe your
mouths with toilet paper.

You really think the only reason that those soldiers didn't rape & mutilate
instead of haze & humiliate is they were too chicken? How stupid can you be?
That's not a rhetorical question, I want to find out if you know.

None of this takes away from how serious I think this is. Every single one
of those soldiers who went Animal House should do hard time, because that's
about the only way to send a message to other testosterone-crazed 20 year
olds of both sexes that they better knock it off.

In terms of ultimate moral seriousness, I place this about 3 points higher
than the antics of Jenna Bush. In terms of PR, it's a complete disaster.
Clearly, if we're going to send 20 year olds over there, we need to do a
better job of teaching them table manners.

Now, one thing that's starting to bother me, looking at the pictures on the
web and listening to the false-ringing bullshit from the military, is the
possibility that what these kids did is tip of the iceberg. What if these
kids (and they are kids) did this because everyone else was doing it, and
they just were the dumbest, not the most brutal? I'm not at all convinced
right now that this behavior is atypical of how we're treating Iraqi
prisoners. And if I don't get convinced of the atypicality pretty soon, I
want to see people up the chain of command in serious trouble, including
jail time. Starting with Brigadier General Dumbitch Waa Waa or whatever her
name is.

> I must look up funny.

Well, don't look up too long, or you'll drown if it rains.

Mike Lee
Islamic Moderate

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