On Mon, 24 May 2004 16:26:25 -0700, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: <snip> > Yeah, but that Jesus is full of surprises: > > "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife > and children, his brothers and sisters -- yes, even his own life -- he > cannot be my disciple." -- Luke 14:26 > > It's sayings of Jesus like this that give me pause when anyone -- myself > included -- claims to know what Jesus would say or do. > > And yes, I know that the word "hate" as Jesus uses it here probably > means about 100 things that we don't normally think it means, and yes, I > know I'm taking one verse out of context. > > Dave
The source material is too heavily edited in most cases to make ready sense. You have to tease out meanings that aren't what the Church was pushing and try to find documents that weren't destroyed. Visualize the Roman Empire as a totalitarian world government and the Catholic Church as the only official religion. Part of the mission of church officials was to remove books and documents that didn't support the Church. After the Western Roman Empire fell this didn't change, it got worse. The Catholic Church had all the centers of learning and was the one transnational authority with real power. There is a reason for the Dark Ages. Gary "who has an idea for a story about the Mormon Church becoming the only official religion after some disaster" # 1 on Google for liberal news
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