From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:53:27 -0500
At 08:50 AM 5/19/04, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 17:27:48 -0500
At 02:55 PM 5/18/04, Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New Hate-Mongering Chick Tract is out Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 10:29:07 -0700
Travis Edmunds wrote:
This is funny. Yes, it is decidedly unchristian to give much thought to people who *sin*, or to people of other religions (meaning that every religion is THE religion) going to Hell, Hades, the 'fiery deeps', or whatever you want to call it. Although...on second thought I will call it Hell as we are after all talking about Christianity. Anyway, my point is this - the actual belief that sinners and everyone else who for whatever reason cannot make it into Heaven (supposedly most go to Purgatory) is a key part of Christian dogma.
No, that's a part of church-ianity dogma.
First of all Nick, allow me to state for the record that I don't buy into your "distinctions among religion, church and faith" bit. For if those distinctions do indeed exist, then they can serve only to disparage any one facet of the other. I mean, what is Faith without a Church to profess it? What is a Church without a Religion as a foundation? What is a Religion without people to have Faith? I tell you sir, they are as intertwined as you are with oxygen.
So are you saying that the only way one can have faith in God is to be a member of an organized religion and to be a "card-carrying" active member of a particular church?
Nope.
So if that is \not\ what you were saying in your earlier post, could you expand a little so it's clearer what you did mean by that paragraph, because after reading it several times I still wasn't entirely sure what you meant? Thanks!
Sure. First of all I wasn't saying that 'the only way one can have faith in God is to be a member of an organized religion and to be a "card-carrying" active member of a particular church'. On the contrary, one can have all the faith in God they want, and have nothing to do with religion in any way whatsoever. I'll give you something to think about though - in doing that, one downplays the significance of organized religion, and becomes a hypocrite oneself is they cite any one facet of organized religion in relation with 'faith'.
-Travis
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