--- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My biggest example is the silent, unnoticed vanishing
> of any programming language from personal computers.

Heck, I work with guys who lament the silent, unnoticed vanishing of
assembly from personal computers.

> 1. I already know BASIC, so sitting with my son with
> BASIC would be a straightforward thing.  Any
> reasonable man would expect to be allowed/able to do
> so.

Is this the father-son bonding of the future?  No more cute, fuzzy
animals or fish need to die in order for a man and his child to share a
moment of communion!

> 2. I am awash in books that offer simple line-by-line
> tutorial programs.

Half-Price Books ;)

> "
> But after the horror of trying xbasic and qbasic and
> all the others, I do not expect much success.  All
> were created by techies who suffer from
> techie-disease... an absolute assumption that
> everyboddy who downloads their compiler will instantly
> and miraculously know how to use it.  The manuals are
> gibberish. There is nothing at all resembling a simple
> place to write line by line code and simply typr
> "run".

I haven't been following this, but what about Perl? As a person who
learned BASIC and C and whatnot (and did a few tutorials in assembly
and Cobol, Just Because) its a joyfully dexterous language.

-k-


        
                
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