Julia wrote:

> > Mainly because if genuine free will is possible, it is 
> possible for us 
> > to exercise our free will to make wrong choices as well as right 
> > choices, and the natural consequences of those wrong 
> choices (ours or 
> > those of others around us whose choices affect us) involve pain and 
> > suffering.
> 
> But you could have pain & suffering without free will, I think.
>
> I mean, what does free will have to do with the pain & 
> suffering experienced in giving birth?  

These would be the natural consequences of the choice to have a baby. At
least that is what I kept on telling myself through the 3 days and
nights of labour. :)

Ritu

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