--- Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just wanted to note that, last night, in videotape I
> saw of Parisians celebrating the anniversary of the
> emancipation of Paris from Nazi rule, some were
> waving
> (large) American flags.  I think it's as unfair to
> assume all the French are as supportive of their
> current administration as it would be to assume that
> all Americans support our current one...  ;)

Well, just remember that in most French textbooks
today (according to the Washington Post Book World a
little while ago) the American role in the liberation
of France is barely mentioned, so don't count on those
flags for much longer.

> For the military buffs here: I saw no mention in
> posts
> thus far of Russian winter conditions as part of the
> reason the Nazis ultimately lost; do you think it
> played a significant part or not?  (My understanding
> was that it did factor in a great deal, but perhaps
> that was because of one man ordering 'attack' when
> he
> ought not have?)
> 
> Debbi

Sure it was significant, but it's complicated.  The
standard thing is to say "never attack Russia in
winter" and argue that the Germans launched their
offensive too late.  There's certainly a fair amount
of truth in that, but you almost _have_ to operate in
winter in Russia because winter is when the ground
freezes hard enough to allow armored operations.  The
problem is actually most acute in the change of
seasons, when the raputista (sp?) turns most of the
western half of the country into solid mud, paralyzing
military operations.

At any rate, winter or no, overstretched or no, I
remember driving into Moscow from Lefortorvo airport
and seeing the huge tank traps that the Russians have
left in place to mark the farthest line of advance of
the German armies.  They were right on the outskirts
of the city - you could just about see the domes of
the Kremlin (German scouts actually reached the city
proper).  Given the centralization of Soviet society
around Moscow as an industrial, transportation, and
governmental hub, (the best way to think of Moscow's
importance in Russia is to combine Washington, New
York, LA, Chicago, and Detroit in one) I find it
difficult to imagine the USSR fighting effectively had
Moscow fallen.

=====
Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Freedom is not free"
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com


                
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