> A low blow. The only word I quoted before was > "officially." The point > of the quote was to draw attention to the fact that > the sort of > millenialist movement you were describing is far too > decentralized to be > accurate described as having "official" positions.
This is utter sophistry. You QUOTED ME! ANd the quotations were false. > This is pretty pathetic, even by your standards. Yes, your insults are customary and shrugged off. > John Kerry did not mean > by "global test" that America must simply make a > "declaration of causes." Ah, so you are the grand mystical interpreter of what an opponent means, never considering that this is what you WANT HIM TO MEAN in order to justify hating him. A lack of skepticism toward one's own motives is the sure fire sign of a romantic. I will repeat what he SAID below. Moreover, if you HAD READ my "salvo" at http://www.davidbrin.com/neocons.html you would see that I never once mention asking for permission in describing the long list of successes and failures of Pax Americana interventions. INDEED I DO THE OPPOSITE. Showing "balance" I lay claim to Pax Americana freedom of action that makes many liberals AND old fashioned conservatives shiver! > Hell, even George Bush agreed we should do that - > that's why Bush wanted > FIFTEEN MONTHS after the "axis of evil" speech > before attacking Iraq, which > is why he sought unanimous passage at the United > Nations of Security > Council resolution 1441, and why he sent Colin > Powell to the United > Nations to lay out the causes that were leading the > US to take its actions. Excuse me. But EXPLAINING to the world does not mean telling relentless lies and then bullying and bribing to get your way. Then interpreting resolutions as they were never meant. The above all amount to a Second Tonkin Gulf Resolution, with a repetition of every monstrous mistake of Vietnam, including dividing the USA down the middle. THE STUPIDEST AND MOST DESTRUCTIVE THING ANY PRESIDENT CAN DO IN A WAR. > > John Kerry, of course, meant I have had enough of this. Here are his actual words. "No president, through all of American history, has ever ceded -- and nor would I -- the right to preempt in any way necessary, to protect the United States of America. But if and when you do it, Jim, you've got to do it in a way that passes the, the test, that passes the global test where your countrymen, your people, understand fully why you're doing what you're doing, and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons." The one person I know will not actually read or absorb ot study my "salvo" is you, John. So please, unless you do so, opt out of this. Go follow this mad alliance of kleptocrats, apocalypts and neocon Imperialists. Any concerned American conservatives are welcome to drop by http://www.davidbrin.com/neocons.html and argue pros and cons sensibly. With cordial regards, David Brin www.davidbrin.com _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
