Nick Arnett wrote:

>Nor me, except that I see that one could make slippery slope argument 
>that this would be a step in the direction of a national id card.  I've 
>always found a bit bizarre not to have to show id to vote, given how 
>important it is.  IIRC, around here, at least, you do have to show id if 
>it's the first time you've voted.  I guess that cuts down on the number 
>of voters that can be invented...

Let's try to see if I can slaughter one beloved sacred cow here...

What's the big deal with a national ID card?
It would prevent voting fraud.
It would help transparency in many other ways -
So, why not?

Well, I guess it can be used for government control,
and not always in benign ways.  True enough.

But right now there *are* many ways for the government to do just that -
there are lots of IDs issued by the federal and state governments -
passports, driver licences, SSN, birth certificates...
Are you people so sure that unifying that into a single national ID
would make the risks much worse?
Here I suggest it would increase the transparency of the system
without reducing the privacy much more than it already has been.

Be real, you know that *THEY* already have a file on you -
I know for sure they have a file on me...
I'm not sure it'd be much worse if that file is linked
to some kind of national ID.

Although...

OTOH, there is such a thing as going too far in this direction.
In Argentina, police can arrest people for not
carrying in their pocket a government-issued ID.
Only a few hours, while they search in their files for the identity.
That's not good, to put it mildly.

OT3H, it's already kind of close to that in the USA - if you drive...

   Ruben
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