----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Acts of War
> On Dec 24, 2004, at 5:05 PM, Dan Minette wrote: > > >> Kerry didn't have enough principle to clearly vote against *or* for > >> the > >> war. That was one of the things Duh-bya harped on: "Flip-flop! > >> Flip-flop!" > > > > Gulf War I, not Gulf War II was being referenced. > > Oh, *that* "that" war. > Right, since that was the war in which Iraq took territory. <quote> >I can only see it as strategic to Iraq if their purpose was to pull the >West into the region in order to touch off a larger conflict. If it was >to actually try to expand their borders, they were nuts, a possibility >that cannot be discounted! Nuts? If your man, John Kerry, had been President, the US wouldn't have even attempted to stop him. <end quote> In another post you asked: >Precisely what part of that, Dan, is not conjecture? Or do you believe >"assumption" to be different from "conjecture" in some fundamental way? Pure conjecture is totally fabricated. Reasonable assumptions, on the other hand, often involve the use of logic, data, and reason. For example, if someone said they were opposed to a war and, when giving the chance to vote for or against the war, voted against, one it is reasonable to assume that person's actions and words reflecting their belief that the war was a mistake. Given the "lessons of Viet Nam" that were assumed at the time, given Kerry's position on earlier wars, it seems reasonsble to assume that Kerry was being intellectually honest in his opposition to the Gulf War. It's always possible that President Kerry would have a different view than Senator Kerry, but it's not pure conjecture to assume that a person's word's and actions reflect their thoughts. > I was opposed to DS as well. I wonder what would have happened had Bush > I carried the fight into Baghdad. I think all hell would have broken loose. According to Baker's book (I'm pretty sure it was Baker) Bush only got the support he did from the Arabs in exchange for not marching on Baghdad. Going ahead and doing it would have probably caused all the Arabs to back out...with the exception of Kuwait I think. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
