JDG wrote:

> I think this had something to do with Bill Clinton being completely
> snookered by the North Koreans, resulting in the DPRK building
> plutonium-based nuclear weapons.
>
> Only you, Dr. Brin, could manage to blame the Bush Administration for one
> of Clinton's Top 5 failures as President.

Well, what option would you have had him choose? I agree with Gautam that
the options with N. Korea are bad and worse.

I see three for him at the time.

1) Bomb N. Korea to stop the nuclear program.  Although N. Korea was and is
extremely unpredictable, the consensus view was that there was a very good
chance of starting a second Korean war with such a bombing.  The US and S.
Korea would win fairly quickly, but the collateral damage would have been
horrid...roughly 200k.

2) Continue to bluster and threaten, while doing nothing.  IIRC, the best
guess at the time was that N. Koreans had already extracted enough
plutonium for 1-2 bombs.  The material that was under seal was enough for
another 5-8 bombs.  The reactors that they were working on, and that would
be completed in several years, would produce enough material for 50
bombs/year.

3) Accept a deal for a fairly verifiable freeze on the production of
nuclear material.  The stoppage of  work on the two new big reactors would
be verifiable.  The status of the spent fuel rods from the first reactor
would be verifiable.  There would be no way to know for sure, under the
initial deal, that N. Korea didn't have a smaller underground facility.  It
turned out, that they were still interested in uranium extraction.  The
dates are unclear....but it is likely that they would have the capacity to
generate another bomb every couple years by about now.

Clinton chose #2, partially because there was a general consensus that N.
Korea was on the brink of collapse.  The collapse was averted...probably
because the West couldn't see millions more starve in order to let the
collapse happen.  But, the greatest worry...that N. Korea would have enough
plutonium for hundreds of bombs by now, was addressed.  As an aside,
Clinton's decision was remarkably similar to Bush I's decision on Iraq.
They both expected the dictator to fall....and took limited action as a
result.  I don't think that I need to remind you that I strongly differ
with db on the merits of Bush I's actions.  Given the information available
at the time, it was far better to keep his word and not invade Iraq than to
break his word.  Even without his word, I think Baker's analysis was
correct....achieving a clear goal and then stopping was the best choice.


Anyways, which choice would you have suggested for Clinton?  Do you see a
fourth choice?

Dan M.



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