----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:58 PM Subject: Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)
> Dave wrote: > > > On Apr 7, 2005, at 5:36 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > > > >> And what about South Africa and India? Are they not examples of regime > >> changes that were accomplished without war? Today, are we open to such > >> possibilities, which seemed impossible to most people before they > >> happened? > > > > I don't remember our invading the Soviet Union, either, and I seem to > > recall some sort of regime change there, too. > > Not to mention all of Eastern Europe. > I think declarations that our only choice was invasion ignores the success > of the inspections; not only those just prior to that event but the > earlier ones that we now know ended all of Hussein's WMD programs. The question at hand originally was whether anything but invasion would topple Hussein. It seems pretty clear to me that he would stay in power for the foreseeable future, since 11 years of sanctions and inspections did not push him out. At the time, if you remember, I thought that we could continue to contain him, and that would be the best option. We'd have to keep the no fly zones, of course, but that was doable. My point is that I thought that anyone who held this viewpoint, as I did, needed to take responsibility for the cost of that viewpoint in terms of human lives and human suffering. I justified advocating allowing this to continue because I thought that the mess that would be made of the aftermath would cause so much harm that the war. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
