On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:59:48 -0500, Dan Minette wrote

> I think that, at a minimum, morality requires the existance of 
> Truths that exist apart from humans...but that we can come to 
> understand.  We agree that one cannot emperically derive morality.

<sarcasm>
What, it's not just a cost/benefit analysis?
</sarcasm>

Forgive me if that seems offensive -- it's not meant to be. I've been trying 
to figure out how to respond to the confusion I've observed here between 
utilitarian and moral arguments.  That's the best I've got so far.

Nick
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