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From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Br!n: Re: more neocons


> On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:21:00 -0500, Dan Minette wrote
>
> > Then what is morality?  A long list of rules?  My basis for morality
> > is "love neighbor as self"
>
> There's a commandment that comes ahead of that for me, which has to do
with
> loving God.

Actually they were not necessarily taught as #1 and #2.  I'm not sure how
to apply love of God

> As for the Golden Rule, I believe that when asked, "Who is my neighbor,"
the
> great teacher told a story about how the rich and powerful were too busy
to
> come to the aid of a victim of violence, but the despised and lowly were
not.

Yes, that did happen.  Being great and powerful can lead to blindness of
others.  So, if I am understanding correctly, you are so sure that rich
people blind themselves, you do not trust the analysis of Americans because
we are clearly the most powerful nation on the earth and thus probably
doing things for the wrong reason because we are powerful?



> How do we apply that knowledge to our international intervention
decisions?
> Does it imply that the rich and powerful have a tendency to get their
> priorities wrong, to "help" only when it furthers their wealth and power?

And those less powerful have a tendency to get their priorities right?  My
view is that the less powerful are also looking out for their own
interests, it's just that they aren't as capable as the powerful to promote
their own interests.


> The story of the Good Samaritan is a beautiful expression of why it is
> critical for the rich and powerful, when considering action, to listen to
the
> priorities of the weak and powerless.


> Surely it is possible to be rich and powerful while keeping one's
priorities
> on a good moral course, but the presumption is against it in the story
you
> cited.

Do you know why the story was taught that way?  Do you know what the
theological arguments were at the time?  If I get you correctly, thinking
doesn't help because we are so blind we can't think straight.  Thus,
listening to and following the views of countries like France and China and
Russia is essential.  If the consensus is against us, the bar for thinking
we are right must be set very high?

Well how high?  Are we totally incapable of answering questions because we
are the most powerful country on the earth?

Dan M.


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