At 09:11 AM 4/29/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:51:38 -0400, JDG wrote
>
>> On the other hand, seriously considering the opinion of another is
>> typically an adult-to-adult relationship.    It would be rather nonsensical
>> to use a child/permission slip metaphor to argue against an adult-to-
>> adult dynamic of seriously considering the opinions of others.
>
>and JDG also wrote:
>
>> No, Nick, the metaphor is not nonsensical in relationship to the US 
>> and the UN - and I never said that it was.
>
>I see absolute contradiction here.
>
>Seriously considering the opinion of other nations is not like asking for a
>permission slip. 

Nick,

You only see "absolute contradiction here" because you keep deleting the
parts where I point out that the UN Security Council is not just a debating
society for the serious consideration of other nations' opinions, but also
passes resolutions, which some say should be required to authorize US
military actions.

Saying that "the US should only act if it has explicit UN Security Council
approval" is like asking for a permission slip.

That is what Bush was arguing against.

Bush was *not* arguing against seriously considering the opinions of other
nations.  Indeed, using a child/permission slip as a metaphor for
"seriously considering the opinions of other nations" just wouldn't make
any sense.   A much more logical explanation is that the child/permission
slip is a metaphor for insisting upon UN Security Council approval of US
actions.

JDG
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