JDG wrote . >>> Yeah, but his argument didn't make any sense, because >>> it was just a wholesale abrogation of moral judgment >>> to other people - people who have an interest in >>> acting in an immoral fashion. All of the arguments >>> you and he make _completely ignore_ that fact. We >>> have many, many examples of different ways in which >>> the countries whose sanctions you advocate us seeking >>> have showed that moral concerns have little or no >>> claim on their stated beliefs. >> >>Gautam, why is it that only other countries have self-interested >>agendas? >>Is it possible that now and then, America does too? I think it is, and >>that's why I think it is worthwhile getting a second opinion.
>I don't know that Gautam has ever denied this. No, he probably hasn't, as he is not a fool, and this is an area in which he has far more expertise than I. >Indeed, he has explicitly made arguments referring to this - such as when >he previously suggested that the War in Iraq was an instance in which >America's self-interest and the selfless morally right thing coincided. I am unclear how that particular example refutes what I was saying. In this case they may have coincided, I was speaking of the general case rather than the specific. Are you of the opinion that American Foreign Policy is always led by selfless morality, or are there times when they too stoop to the level of the scummy French or the sneaky, dirty Germans, and do things where the self interest of the USA outweighs the moral thing to do? This is not an Anti-American bash, I am more interested in your opinion. Andrew
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