On 5/16/05, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Denton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: The American Political Landscape Today > > > >Are you a doctor? Why do you want the government making medical > > decisions? > > > > Because I don't think it's a medical decision. You assume your > conclusions > > when you make that statement. You assume that a 2 week overdue infant is > > not human, but an 8 week premature baby is. I don't think humans should > be > > killed. But, the point is not even that abortion is right or wrong. It's > > that Democrats are taking positions that are favored by only the most > > liberal 10%-20% of the nation and holding fast to those positions. > Setting > > aside the debate of whether abortion should or should not be > >> illeagal...the > >> Democratic party's position favoring the > > >You may have hit enter to fast judging by how that trails off. > > The unfettered right to abortion alienates many voters....even > self-defined > Democrats. > > >But you are returning to your argument which was immediately jumped on. > Why > >do you think Democrats are for unlimited abortions? Why do you think > >incorrectly that most Democrats don't hold the positions of most > Americans? > > That's not really what I'm getting at. The origional claim was that the > liberals were the mainstream because they were the mode of the Pew poll. > Eric pointed out the mathamatical error in this analysis fairly clearly. > Conservative Democrats were considered liberal. From reading the website, > I'd say that conservative Democrats were more conservative on social > issues > and more liberal on issues such as government spending and taxes.
I stayed out of that clearly wrong argument - the mode is not the median. Pew reported Liberals were one side, what they call Enterprisers was another. The liberals have been at 18 to 25% all of my life. Conservatives hit a high point under Reagan. Always the center of American politics are the self-identified moderates. I have a libertarian leaning firend who was bothered by the questions even though they clearly pegged him as a conservative Democrat which is usually the way he votes. >About 40% of Republicans oppose efforts to make it more difficult to get > >abortions. > >About 25% of Democrats support efforts to make it more difficult to get > an > >abortion. > > >Why are the Republican who think we are going to far not heard from when > >there are debates about abortion in just about every Democratic meeting I > >attended? > > I was almost one of the 18 year old delagates for McGovern. I know > personally that, in most places, a pro-life Democrat has a hard time > within > the party. I dropped out of politics because of that. I'm not claiming > that this is a universal situation, but I've > > >I suspect is because it was part of that media drumbeat that pro-life > people > >can't be heard in the Democratic party. > > No, it's because the Democratic leadership seems to fear a slippery slope > on abortion. If they make one single concession for any reason whatsoever, > then it's Katy bar the door. Personally, I see simularities between this > and the NRA's position on gun control. I think you are seeing a shake-up of that auto pro-choice position and the NRA example my have been accurate. Even though I'm a liberal, I realize that there are fewer liberals than > conservatives. I don't see the reason to look at the data sideways to deny > unpleasant realities. That's a losing strategy. You can pick and choose issues to show there are fewer conservatives but in my neighborhood I agree with you. It is sometimes surprising to see a large number of mainly white liberal families get together like we did Saturday for a Family Fun day and Dump Delay picnic in the park in DeLay's district. Dan M. > -- Gary Denton Easter Lemming Blogs http://elemming.blogspot.com http://elemming2.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
