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Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Abortion and the Democratic Party Re:
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> In a message dated 5/18/2005 3:08:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > It depends on whom is being threatened.  If you believe that humanness
in
> > not innate, but society has a right to limit who is considered human,
then
> > that's a self consistent position. Is that your position?
>
>
> That is the wrong formulation. Humaness is innate in the sense that it
> apertains to any human fetus but it is also not present at inception. It
develops
> progressivley over time. There is no threshold over which a fetus crosses
to
> become human but clearlythere is a range of time over which it changes
from
> something that is potentially human to something that is human

If you reread my example, I think you see that I allowed for that.  My
comparison was between a baby that was born two months premature and a
fetus that is 3 days past due.  The fetus 3 days past due is, typically,
better developed than the baby born two months premature.  I can understand
you saying that at conception we don't have a human, at 21 we do, and
somewhere in between we draw a line.

But, that line should be based on the being itself, not what _we've_ done.
If we can change the humanness by changing the order of actions slightly,
then the humanness, or lack thereof, is not innate.

So, I wasn't arguing, at this point, against all abortions....just
abortions after vivacity of the fetus.  Roughly speaking...that's third
trimester abortions.

Dan M.


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