On Jun 13, 2005, at 2:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 08:28 PM Sunday 6/12/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/11/2005 5:52:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How does procreation have to do with homosexual rape among prisoners
and how to prevent it, which is what this discussion was originally
about?
We are animals (I mean that in no pejorative way). Our sex drive is an
adaptation that insures that we will procreate. Men don't have sex to
have babies directly but the drive for sex is founded in procreation.
Initially, maybe, but all along our evolutionary branch there are
abundant examples of penile play and penetration used to do many things
*other than* procreate. Some are pleasant and probably reinforce social
bonds. Some are not so much so and seem to reinforce social
*hierarchy*. Reducing sex to something as simple as a drive to
procreate (in humans) seems as sensible to me as attributing sexual
orientation to a "gene".
So the persons the men who want sex most are young men because this
makes for more babies and they want to have sex with young women. With
gay sex the object of diesire is changed but the diesire for youth is
not
Oy. Not quite sure where to start on this one...
For most of our evolutionary history, few of our species ever made it
past 30 or so. If there's any inherited component to sexual attraction,
this is surely a factor that cannot be overlooked.
But I think you might be overlooking something significant, in much the
same way that a fish doesn't notice water: Culture. In the US for
certain, a LOT of value is artificially placed on youth. In the midst
of our "look-young-or-die" culture, drawing conclusions about sex
partners that claim to be anchored solidly in biology seems a tad
risky. We'd need a major longitudinal study of many cultures before we
could look for something like biological causes to behaviors as complex
as sexuality.
But all of this is apart from prison rape, which doesn't seem to be
about social bonding; it seems more like a way of enforcing superiority
on others, doesn't it? So the procreative aspects of sexuality are
completely abrogated here; it's the social enforcement aspects of
penetrative intercourse that are coming into play.
--
Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books
http://books.nightwares.com/
Current work in progress "The Seven-Year Mirror"
http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf
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