Dan, I will have to think about your reply more for a fuller answer. Right now I am convinced we are in the early stages of admitting the invasion was a tragic mistake and plunged us into an unwinable war. The issue of how we treat prisoners should be resolved to restore the good name of the United States while also protecting the U.S. from real terrorists.
I will also have to reread the Time article. You do know that Time has a long history of presenting some foreign policy and intelligence information in ways that the CIA and other conservative policy leaders wanted out? Time Magazine was tied to the CIA and a loosely organized group that evolved into the neo-cons and had some of the closest editorial connections. In the 70's it came out that hundreds of US journalists were also on the payroll of the CIA. The opinion of the owners of much of the so called liberal media was expressed by Washington Post's owner Katharine Graham at CIA headquarters, "There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows." She didn't admit to not only covering up but actively pushing a CIA story numerous times. On the Democrats lack of organized widely supported alternative plans - they have a much more complicated political job. Reeves editorial quoting Thomas Mann: ""Republicans have to defend a war that was very badly planned and is costing much more in blood and treasure than the public was led to believe. Democrats struggle to define and agree on alternative policy that doesn't simply write off the sacrifices already made by our armed forces and accept defeat." "In other words, the die has been cast; we have crossed both the Tigris and the Euphrates. But if history is our guide, it will take six more years to declare peace with honor, one more time. As if most of us, Iraqis aside, did not already know that this war is over. We tried the impossible again, with the usual result -- and it will take time to craft a noble rationale for what we have done to ourselves." http://tinyurl.com/9ahgw or http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=123&e=1&u=/ucrr/20050624/cm_ucrr/timetablesixmoreyearsiniraq On 7/1/05, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: a very thoughtful reply. -- Gary Denton http://www.apollocon.org June 24-26 Easter Lemming Blogs http://elemming.blogspot.com http://elemming2.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l