--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob wrote:
> > So let me get this straight. She blames the
> Neocons (many of whom are 
> > Jews; the movement was founded by Jewish
> intellectuals. So the neocons 
> > (who are Jews) got the president to support the
> war to aid Israel (by 
> > the way in what way does this war aid Israel?)
> 
> Isn't the president and much, if not all of his
> administration Neocon?

Not at all.  Unfortunately, neocon has been turned
into a phrase that basically means "person of
conservative persuasion with whom I disagree".  A
quick and dirty way to figure out who is a neocon
might be, "Who votes Republican _and_ thinks that
human rights are the most important thing on earth?" 
The set is not exactly large, for good or ill :-)

Without going into the history of that particular
word, the most important neocon in the Administration
(was) Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Secretary of Defense.
 The only reason anyone has heard of him is because he
is Jewish.  A question.  Without looking it up, can
_anyone_ on the list name a Clinton Administration
Deputy Secretary of Defense?  I'm a professional in
this field (paid unbelievably tiny amounts of money to
study it :-( ) and I have _no idea_ who his DepSec
was.  There are actually very few neocons in the
Administration - probably fewer than there were in the
Reagan Administration.
> 
> And the reframed goal of the Iraq war is to
> democratize and pacify the 
> Middle East, wouldn't that benefit Israel?

Maybe, but are there many people in the world whom a
democratized and pacified Middle East _wouldn't_
benefit?  And would we want those people to be better
off, even if they wouldn't benefit from it?


Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Freedom is not free"
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com

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