At 05:49 AM Sunday 10/2/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote:


14AWG is about the smallest wire you see for residential installation
(though smaller conductors are used for control wiring, fire alarm,
anunciation.......),


I knew that, but was thinking of standard 120VAC, 15 or 20A branch circuits in the house. (FWIW, one of my stops while shopping earlier on Saturday was a Radio Shack, where I got a spool of 4×24ga. telephone wire and some other parts to do some repairs and modernization on some of the jacks in this house. (I already have somewhere around here an assortment of terminals for such wire and the crimping tool for installing them, etc. . . .) The house was built in the spring of 1957 — my father bought it and we moved in in August of 1964 — and the phone jacks in the bedrooms take the standard-in-those--days 4-prong plug, and one of the two modular jacks designed to hold a wall phone — which is the one that the line used by the computer is running through, as the other one has a wall phone (black, with dial) hanging on it) is cracked so the only way to keep the cord in it is to tape it in place. I went from dial-up to DSL earlier this week — at a rough estimate it seems to be about 70× faster — so I decided it was a good time to fix some of those things as I am going around putting the filters in place, etc.)



but 12AWG is the standard branch circuit
conductor.



That was what I based my answer on.



I've installed conductors as large as 1000MCM, but mostly
such loads are fed parallel.

18AWG is going to be used *inside* equipment for the most part if it
is a load bearing conductor.



E.g., rewiring lamps that aren't working. BT,DT. So far none of them have burned up or caused the house to burn down . . .



>>How much wire can you put in a pipe?
>
>
> Off the top of my head, no I don't know.  I do know where to look it
> up, though, if the situation ever arises.  Mostly I have used
> non-metallic cable rather than conduit.

Then there is the consideration for how many wires you can have in a
junction box.
It is not difficult to look these things up, it is difficult to do it
right without derating the circuits.


>
>
>>Can you bend pipe so that it is located exactly where it is needed
>>without sawing it to pieces and using a bunch of couplings;
>>i.e.....wasting material?
>>How deep do you bury pipe under a roadway.......a sidewalk.......a
>>flowerbed?
>>How do you avoid derating every circuit in a pipe?
>>How often do you have to support armored cable?
>>How many circuits can share a neutral?
>>What is the smallest wire you can use for an equipment ground?
>
>
> Again, I'd probably use 12ga.  Preferably with green insulation.
> (If the wire itself is green, it's probably been exposed to
> moisture.)
>

The answer is 8AWG actually, but you are probably using a different
definition for "equipment" than an electrician is going to use.<G>



Again, I was thinking of things one would find around the standard residence (or even around mine)



An electrician would be more likely to say "Having a pair of
sidecutters (Kliens) does not make one an electrician".



Nor does having a pair of dykes. Though wrt your message to Julia, it can get you a magazine layout. (So I hear, anyway . . . ) Or, some people could voice their suspicion and others name a planet after you : <<http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/10/01/new.planet.moon.ap/index.html>>


Not Going There In This Life Maru


--Ronn!  :)

"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too?"
   -- Red Skelton




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