----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <brin-l@mccmedia.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Defeat in Victory
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <brin-l@mccmedia.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:00 PM > Subject: Re: Defeat in Victory > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <brin-l@mccmedia.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:12 PM >> Subject: Re: Defeat in Victory >> >> >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Andrew Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <brin-l@mccmedia.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:57 AM >> > Subject: Defeat in Victory >> > >> > >> >>I hate how terrorism and the war in Iraq have come to dominate >> >>debate >> >>so. I notice that Gautam and JDG rarely post these days, and >> >>there >> >>is >> >>no-one to staunchly dispute the centrist viewpoints we all seem >> >>to >> >>espouse (Dan excepted). >> > >> > FWIW, by US political standards, I am clearly to the left of >> > center. >> > Taking surveys from the British sites that were referenced by the >> > Culture >> > mailing list, I find myself very very slightly to the right of >> > the >> > British >> > center (IIRC, on a scale that went from -10 to 10, I was 0.3 >> > toward >> > the >> > conservative....as opposed to many Culturenicks who were in >> > the -5 >> > to -9 >> > range (towards leftist). >> > >> >> Where were you on the other axis with regard to others? Left/right >> isn't everything. > > I was on the libertarian side....I think about -4 or so. > >> > >> > Indeed, from my perspective, most of the political posts here >> > that >> > are not >> > my own, over the last few months, fit reasonably well into the >> > Michael >> > Moore wing of the Democratic party. >> > >> >> I'm not sure whether you are trying to paint others here as farther >> left than they are > > I guess I'm saying that "blood for oil" is/has been a view of > Michael > Moore. I see it repeated many times here. I see myself as just > about the > only one left who has argued with Brin's view that GWB (and his dad) > have > betrayed the US and are/were pawns of Saudi Arabia. > > Now, I know there are issues on which I'm clearly more liberal than > you. I > recognize gun control as one. > >> Perhaps you have been ignoring the polls over the last year or >> more?:) > > Which polls indicate that I'm to the right of most Americans on > significant > issues? Maybe abortion, but depending on the question, I can be in > the > middle or slightly right of center on that issue. > <G> It's not all about you Dan!<G> I was suggesting that perhaps you are missing that "most" of the liberal posters here are espousing views that are more centrist than you might think. >From where I'm viewing, a corner seems to have been turned in recent months and "most" people in the US share opinions that are more leftish than they were over the last few years. xponent Swinging Maru rob _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
