On 30 Jul 2006, at 1:31AM, Charlie Bell wrote:


On 30/07/2006, at 9:38 AM, jdiebremse wrote:
Of course, I don't think that Brother John does anyone any favors
when he equates ova and sperm with zygotes and unborn children.

No, he equated sperm and zygotes with "babies". Babies are infants in the minds of most people. Not unborn children. He may have meant it, but it's not what he said. It's that sort of rhetoric that makes it impossible to have a debate with so many. Talking about babies and children (rather than specifying unborn children or foetuses) puts anyone on the other side in exactly the same position that asking them "When did you stop beating your wife?" does - there is no response that doesn't make them look defensive or bad.

A little historical comparison of child mortality and birth complication death rates of mothers in the past with now in developed and other countries would be interesting.


But then, I see that "Brother John" is happily trolling in a couple of subthreads now...

'Brother John' is a troll and probably someone who's been here before yanking some chains.

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