William T Goodall wrote:
On 30 Jul 2006, at 1:31AM, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 30/07/2006, at 9:38 AM, jdiebremse wrote:
Of course, I don't think that Brother John does anyone any favors
when he equates ova and sperm with zygotes and unborn children.
No, he equated sperm and zygotes with "babies". Babies are infants in
the minds of most people. Not unborn children. He may have meant it,
but it's not what he said. It's that sort of rhetoric that makes it
impossible to have a debate with so many. Talking about babies and
children (rather than specifying unborn children or foetuses) puts
anyone on the other side in exactly the same position that asking
them "When did you stop beating your wife?" does - there is no
response that doesn't make them look defensive or bad.
A little historical comparison of child mortality and birth
complication death rates of mothers in the past with now in developed
and other countries would be interesting.
But then, I see that "Brother John" is happily trolling in a couple
of subthreads now...
'Brother John' is a troll and probably someone who's been here before
yanking some chains.
I am not a troll, and I have never been here before. I discovered this
list while doing Google searches to find Mailman lists. Since I really
like the SF of Gregory Benford and David Brin, I thought there might be
some interesting people here. So far, I have not been disappointed. If I
seem to be trolling, it is only because I have highly unusual opinions
about many things. All my life I have been trying to figure out what the
"truth" is by being the contrarian. I reason that if the "truth" exists,
it must be very different from what most people think it is. If most
people knew the "truth," whatever that is, the world wouldn't be a
messed up as it is. While I cannot think of any better way for men to
govern themselves than by the principle of majority rule, I have often
pondered on how outrageously wrong the majority have often been in the
past. Therefore, long ago I concluded that whatever the truth is, it
must be a rare and precious commodity known to only a few people. And
while I do not claim to know very much about truth, I have very little
confidence in the knowledge of anyone else. They are as likely to be
ignorant as I am, and in a few cases even more likely. My Uncle Bob used
to say that "It isn't what you don't know that kills you, but what you
know that's not so." I have often thought that must be true. A person
who thinks he knows the truth when he actually doesn't is not very
likely to figure out what it is. --JWR
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