--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > One of the ideas that came from the Enlightenment is
> > that "all men are
> > created equal."  That concept means that the
> > differences in intelligence,
> > race, religion, age, are superficial differences
> > when discussing human
> > rights.  We are all endowed with equal rights (most
> > think that the use of
> > the word "men" was not intended to exclude women as
> > having no rights)..no
> > matter how different we are.
>
> Just going to point out that Africans *didn't* count
> as full human (3/5s of a person, I believe was
> specified, in the matter of population, although of
> course they did not get 3/5s of a vote in elections)
> to certain framers of the Constitution [#]

In fairness, my recollection is that it was the people who believed
that Africans *were* fully human, and who thus were anti-slavery,
who argued for the 3/5ths clause.   I believe it was the people who
were pro-slavery that opposed the 3/5ths clause.

Otherwise, white slave-holders would have had their voting weight in
Congress fully accounting for their non-voting slaves.

JDG





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