At 08:19 AM Friday 9/29/2006, Dan Minette wrote:

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>>I was thinking of a temporary halt...during the recession.
> And I'm not sure that even a "temporary" halt would not lead to
> something more like a catastrophic economic meltdown rather than a
> mere "recession" . . .

Thinking about the general definition of recession as a drop in GDP for two
quarters, and not applying it too literally, my point is that there is a
strong tie between economic growth and increase in energy usage.



I agree. Which is my point about China, India, and the rest of the world: as their economies grow, their energy usage per capita is going to grow. And their "capita" is already much larger than ours . . .



Averaged
over the last decade, most countries have improved their energy use per unit
of GDP....not tremendously, but noticeably.  During economic downturns,
energy use typically drops slightly.  So, a pause in economic growth should
cause a pause in the growth of energy use.



I agree.

My question is whether a cut of 60% or 94% or whatever figure you found and cited as necessary to stop or reverse the environmental damage, or a cut even a fraction as large, a cut large enough to see _any_ gains wrt global warming, no matter how minuscule, will lead to a "pause" for a few quarters or something which will make 1929 look like a minor blip, and itself perhaps lead to the deaths of millions worldwide due to starvation or disease (IOW, consequences just about as bad as the worst-case scenarios predict if we do not take such drastic action)?

Just as we have "only one global environment" that we can't afford to screw up, we have "only one global economy," and screwing it up could lead to just as negative consequences for the human race as screwing up the environment past the "point of no return." And we have to get both of them right the first time, based on knowledge which will always be inadequate, because we can't know the long-term consequences of our actions until they occur . . .


-- Ronn!  :)



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