--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you consider maneuvering outside of the democratic process to get
> > what you want to be a "good-sized" win.....
>
> Yeah ... why, it's almost as outrageous as gerrymandering, isn't it?
>
> > The people of New Jersey never voted for this law, nor did they ever
> > vote for representatives in favor of this law, but they have this
law
> > anyways.
>
> Huh? What law do you think you're referring to? The NJ courts ruled
> only that same-sex couples are entitled, under the state constitution,
> to the same benefits as other-gender couples.


Which, of course, is just how the people of New Jersey drew it up,
right?

>Furthermore the court held that same-gender couples cannot be called
>married -- yet I don't imagine you're outraged about that.

I will say that slightly changes my opinion of this ruling - it was not
clear to me from the initial reports I saw.



> But I guess I can understand how upset you must be to have to consider
> the possibility that gays and lesbians are *almost* as good as you.


Yeah, that must be it.    Thanks for the absolutely gratuitous personal
insult......   Its just want I wanted in the morning....


> If you're against gay marriage, don't have one.

What doesn't the same logic apply?    "If you don't want a *marriage* in
New Jersey, don't have one?"

> But keep the hell off  of others' rights,

Which rights are those?    As opposed to privileges?     If the NJ
Supreme Court rules that same-sex couples in New Jersey are entitled to
the same benefits as marriage in New Jersey, but may not marry, then why
isn't this ruling a question of privileges and not rights?

Why doesn't the logic of this ruling also imply that a progressive
income tax is similiarly unconstitutional?

JDG



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