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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Charlie Bell
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:09 AM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: Re: This is not a False Alarm...
> 
> 
> On 12/04/2007, at 6:58 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
> 
> >>
> >> Newer cars use less fuel to travel further than older cars.
> >
> > Lighter newer cars might...but I don't think the same sized new
> > cars.  In a
> > real sense, a small car is more efficient than a large car, but
> > that's not
> > what I was thinking of.  I was thinking of the energy requirements
> > of the
> > anti-pollution equipment on autos.  As a result of this equipment,
> > the power
> > train is less efficient than it use to be.
> 
> No. There are small losses through the cat, and there are more losses
> if you have AWD, but engine management, direct injection, and
> materials have meant the net efficiency of drivetrains is far better.

Here, AWD means all wheel drive....but I know I have much more than a
catalytic converter on my car.  Googling the details is harder than I
expect, so I don't have the exact details.  But, I know that my
anti-pollution system does take power, via a belt connection to the engine.
My recall is that this is a significant power drain and involves the
recycling of exhaust gas.

I searched again, and the first 30 or so hits for many combinations, are not
related to the question...so I have to go on memory.

One thing that strongly influences my memory was my ownership of a car that
_actually_ got 50 mpg on the highway (or at least 48) and about 40 in town.
It was a 1979 VW Diesel Rabbit, and seated 4.  Diesels were not subject to
restrictions at that time, but gas powered autos were.  The comparable gas
Rabbit got ~30 mpg//25 mpg. We don't see widespread us of this option
now...certainly less than in the late '70s.  I recall reading that this was
due to the difficulty of both having the pollution control equipment
required in the US and the superior mileage.

Since I haven't been able to find anything on the web to confirm or deny
these memories, I will stand corrected if someone has harder data than I do.

Dan M


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