At 12:00 PM 4/30/2007 -0700, Dan M. wrote:

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>Having set this up, let's think of the cut that would be required to stop
>global warming.  Elsewhere you suggested boycotting China until they have a
>more environmentally friendly policy. If I were Chinese, I'd counter that
>this is an unreasonable and hypocritical action for the West, since their
>per capita carbon emission is less than that of any Western country.  It's
>less than half of that of the UK, and less than 20% of the US.
>
>The numbers that I've seen is that the US and Europe, and other developed
>countries have to drop to, essentially, the per capita carbon consumption of
>China...and China and India, etc. have to hold their consumption at or below
>that level.
>
>I'll stop here for now, I'm not sure if anyone is interesting in replying.
>But, if there interest, I think I could argue that even Debbie's lifestyle
>would be all but impossible in a no global warming world.

It would be possible in a world with far fewer people.  Unfortunately the 
routes to that state are really unpleasant.  There isn't even a word for a 
billion people dying.

The long term alternatives to abundant energy are fairly well understood, 
but there is little public push for them.

Keith Henson


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