On 10 Mar 2008, at 04:45, Warren Ockrassa wrote: > On Mar 5, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > >> On 5 Mar 2008 at 12:23, William T Goodall wrote: >> >>>> Others might argue that "the doors of perception were >>>> cleansed", letting one see another level of reality that >>>> was always there. >>> >>> Hallucinations are just the brain running wonky, not 'another level >>> of >>> reality'. >> >> Prove you're not hallucinating your life, and you're not just a brain >> in a jar :) (The number of contradictions in this world? Jar is a >> shitload simpler) > > He doesn't have to, Andrew. It's those who claim their experiences -- > which run contrary to observable, verifiable and apparently valid > reality -- that must prove *their* livers are not the illusion. > > As to brain in a jar: Occam would have something to say to you. The > more parsimonious explanation is that the reality we appear to > experience is valid, rather than the idea that this reality is an > illusion covering a larger, more bizarre reality. That's just not > parsimonious. Impossible? no. Unlikely? extremely. > > What "contradictions", by the way, can you enumerate which make it "a > shitload simpler" to believe we're brains in a jar?
I suspect Andrew perceives the world as containing contradictions because his beliefs are at odds with reality. Walter Mitty Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Debunking bullshit is a thankless task. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
