>This is a myth. He was elected by the parliament, which is not >democratic. It's like Bush II in 2000, who was elected by the >electoral college, and not by the people.
>Alberto Monteiro Hmmm ... I'm no expert on German History, so I'll take your word for it. Still, being elected by Parliament isn't quite the same as being selected by the electoral college, since the Parliament itself is presumably elected democratically, and the electoral college is not -- it is just a functional represenation of the various voting strengths of the states. And Bush in 2000 wasn't selected by the electoral college -- most independent audits have shown that Gore would have won Florida in a fair count, and thus would have carried the electoral vote. Bush was chosen, finally, by the Supreme Court. All this is nitpicking, though. My point was simply that being chosen by Democratic means does not mean that a leader is fit to rule, or that he has any respect for Democratic process. The consent to be governed should rest, not just on how the person was chosen, but on how they function once elected. That's why the drafters of the US Consititution were very determined to put pro visions for Impeachment into the process -- I suspect that it has been used less frequently than they invisioned. The idea that we have to continue to conesent to any government that is elected Democratically, no matter what it does, is not in keeping with America's founding principles. Olin ----- Original Message ----- From: Alberto Monteiro<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Science and Ideals. Olin Elliott wrote> > >> I give my consent to be governed by people with whom I disagree, >> so long as they are elected by legal democratic means. > > Don't forget, Hitler was elected by Democratic means. > This is a myth. He was elected by the parliament, which is not democratic. It's like Bush II in 2000, who was elected by the electoral college, and not by the people. Alberto Monteiro _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l<http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l> _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
