On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Williams wrote:

>> the Fed can't really even estimate or predict how
>> far the repercussions of that market collapse are going to extend  
>> even
>> years into the future.)
>
> The Fed can't predict the housing market, the stock market, the CDS
> market, or pretty much any market. Only God can do that.

Sorry, you're right, "predict" was a poor choice of words.  Nobody can  
predict future market behavior, and on that you're right.  They can,  
however, forecast based on mandatory reporting of transactions in most  
markets, and make reasonably accurate assessments of the impact of  
changes in those markets based on that forecasting.  Not even that is  
possible with the credit-default swap market, because there is no  
oversight, auditing, or reporting at all, so it's not possible to even  
guess at the long term impact of the collapse of that market or assess  
how risky the speculation in it was, or its long term effects on the  
brokerage firms that were trading in it.

And I wouldn't be quite as emotional about that if it weren't a clear  
cut example of precisely how the corporate interests have been telling  
us all along, since before Reagan, that the market *should* be run --  
no oversight, no auditing, no accountability, no reporting, none of  
that government "interference" in the market.  I agree that if  
everyone trading in a given market is responsible about the risks they  
take and the funds they have on hand to back those risks if they turn  
sour, then oversight and accountability do make the market somewhat  
less "efficient" than it can be otherwise .. but that, in turn is a  
*huge* "if" that, in all the times we've experimented with laissez- 
faire market capitalism, has never been borne out in reality.  Do we  
really need to do this one more time expecting different results, or  
can we agree that there is a need to have *some* government  
involvement in this kind of trading to prevent exactly this sort of  
irresponsibly risky behavior?

"I don't know what kind of salad it is.  I'm eating a salad, okay?    
I'm doing it.  Do I have to know the names?  There's no difference  
between them.  It's a bowl of weeds.  Some of 'em have cheese.  This  
isn't the kind with cheese.  Does that answer your question?" -- Toby  
Ziegler

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