----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Financial institution fallout


> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Dan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> No, I was asking simple questions about techniques.  Discussions between
>> people on a paper, results, etc. depend on agreement on techniques for
>> evaluation.  I asked whether you agreed on a few essential techniques of
>> empirical investigation.
>
> No, you were rambling on with nonsense, failing to address a single
> argument in the Higg's paper.

Seems like you are the only one who gives a crap about the Higgs paper.
We are awaiting news of Higgs boson.


>
>> That's not the point being argued.  You see, all but a few people 
>> understand
>> that money is a placeholder; it is a social construct.  Numbers in a
>> computer or pieces of paper with dead presidents on them have meaning 
>> only
>> within a society.
>
> Sophistry. Money can be converted to gold, and gold has value in every
> society. You are just trying to rationalize taking wealth from others
> because you think you know how to spend it better than they do.

Money can be converted to water or blue-ray DVD players too. So what?
Again, it aint just *your* money.

>
>> Thus, if you are a member of this society, you play by its rules.
>
> America has a long history of forcing things on others. That does not
> make it right or good.

Oops!
John is trying to force his opinions on others again.

>
>> But, your arguments for radical individualism are about as sensible as
>> someone arguing that people are just a construct, all that exist are 
>> quarks,
>> leptons, and all the particles that transmit the forces.
>
> What an incredibly egotistical statement. Your egotism never ceases to
> amaze and amuse me. Let's just throw out all moral rights of a person
> to keep what is theirs because Dan doesn't like them, and for good
> measure, let's call John insensible because he thinks he has a right
> to his wealth and posessions. Hilarious!

Again with the myth of your individuality.
Face it, you are nothing more than a pseudopod of the genome collecting a 
view.
I've tasted your kool-aid and boy oh boy is it yummy!
Mighty delicious but hardly nutritious, and it has too much vitamin 
D-elusion.
No man is an island, but on your island Noman is killing you Polyphemus, and 
yet you complain about golden fleecing. Meanwhile the rest of us cling below 
the fleece and mostly escape dangers. A *group* effort to be sure.

(Yes, I am making fun of you. Maybe you will "get" the metaphors)
>
> I don't know if I can read any more of your posts I am laughing so hard!

The rest of us are laughing too, but for different reasons I'm sure.


xponent
Myth-Adventure Maru
rob

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