MJ Ray wrote:
> Lyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://perl.bristolbath.org/tshirt/front.png
>> http://perl.bristolbath.org/tshirt/back.png
> 
> Actually, this just came up over on http://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/
> 
> That t-shirt back may be infringing the Perl Foundation's trademark.
> See http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl_trademark for their claims.

This was discussed on use.perl.oreg recently[1]. The bottom line is that 
TPF are just protecting their trademark - something that you have to do 
if you don't want to lose it.

TPF have never refused use of the onion logo to any PM group who have asked.

> The camel claims are http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/perl/usage/

Likewise, O'Reilly are protecting their trademark. And they are, in my 
experience, very happy for PM groups to use it.

> So, the widely-used perl emblems are non-free software and maybe even
> usuable for this group's T-shirts!  (Is it an official TPF Perl
> Mongers group, whatever that means?)

Oh yes, this is an "official" group[2].

> Bad ORA!  Bad TPF!  Hurting your fans!

Not hurting anyone actually. But feel free to have a knee-jerk reaction :)

> Annoyed by this crap,

Welcome to the real world.

Cheers,

Dave...

[1] http://use.perl.org/~hex/journal/36678
[2] http://www.pm.org/groups/116.html
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