On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM, MJ Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Paul Makepeace" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Amias Channer <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> > Linking to your own posts which only link to another of your own
>> > posts is not considered evidence in book.
>
> The link was meant to show it in context, not as evidence.  It's an
> opinion and unlikely to have evidence.  Sorry for any confusion.
>
>> > As far as i have heard the GSOC thing came out of google needing some
>> > particularly difficult advances in several open source projects
>> > and finding a way to help this happen without having to try to
>> > own the people who could do it. [...]
>
> That's a plausible reason for Google to do it.  As long as that's
> understood by everyone, we all win from it.
>
>> Google supports open source because supporting open source is good,
>> and open source has supported Google. It encourages young developers
>> to work on open source projects which helps everyone. More here:
>> http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_goals
>
> Sorry, that's BS.  Like all Delaware Inc's, they're legally forbidden
> from doing anything except maximise Google's share value.  They may

It's possible to work in the greater good AND optimize for share value.

> claim they're doing it "because supporting open source is good," but
> that's only because that claim maximises Google's share value.  If
> more people called it out as the BS it is, they'd stop claiming it.
>
> Claims like that are why GSOC isn't a win for everyone.

Who do you perceive as losing out from sponsoring students from writing code??

>
> [...]
>> But congrats to MJ for the most cynical post on here so far ;-)
>> Reminds me of http://xkcd.com/192/
>
> No, when they came emailing years ago, I sent them a short rebuke.
> I'd prefer to leave computing than leave the cooperative sector.
>
>> > So come on MJ what is it , what did they do to you ?
>
> In short, externalising their costs onto the wider web and helping
> governments to repress information.

Honestly... LOL

P

>
> Hope that explains,
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