Some comments in no particular order 1. My obsessive love of ultimate is about the general "sporting aspects" of the game. SotG and self-refereeing is brilliant, but (shock, horror) not the most important part of it from my point of view.
2. My view is that putting a 3rd party in place will inevitably lead to a situation where individuals take less responsibility for their actions. I.e. cheating with a view to not getting caught will increase. 3. When other teams/individuals REALLY cheat (I don't mean disagreements that result from different perspectives of the same event) it is (as Rob Alpen says) really horrible. Its happened to me a few times - and there is pretty much nothing you can do about it. I think we have to (as a sport) retain an approach to dealing with this situation if/when it occurs. 4. I think its inevitable that as the number of players increases you will see more of the situation I describe in (3). This is one reason why I'm not all that interested in whether the game grows significantly in its player base (esp. in the short term - i.e. while I'm still playing). 5. So (depressing bit coming up) I believe its inevitable that as the number of players increases there will be a need for something like observers (or even more!). 6. At that point, some people will continue to play ultimate - and some people will play the new game. Maybe one will be the quaint amateur version of the professional big-brother version that's making lots of people reading this shudder. I don't think anything we do about observers will make a blind bit of difference. In the meantime, I think it would be far more beneficial if there was a concerted campaign to get ultimate players worldwide to recognise the first and most important step in respecting SotG: read, learn and understand the rules. Hope that makes some sense Si Ps - Carthorse is - as usual - in total dreamland. Clapham practices involve less calls for a number of obvious reasons: 1. Aram has left the country 2. Guy has left the country 3. I'm at practice less often right now 4. Carthorse encourages less calls so that he doesn't get called for travelling every time he touches the disc :-0 5. And yes - we have tried to institute a common sense approach to playing without lines that didn't exist before... __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pootle.near.me.uk/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp
