Alex, The UKUA are planning to go further than that. On the 23rd of October (the Awards dinner will be in the evening) we are holding a 'Conference' in London. All teams are invited to send a representative - topics discussed will include the tournament and season structure, coaching, promotion and PR, international competition as well as the development of Women's, Junior's and Mixed Ultimate. More details of this will be circulated soon (keep an eye on BD as well as your "member update" emails).
Out of this day we hope to get a good feeling for what Ultimate players from all divisions/standards/experience want and to identify areas that the UKUA should be concentrating over the next few years. (As well as encourage more people to become involved with the running of our sport - we need your help just to keep things going never mind deal with growth!) Debates like this on BD and comments sent direct to me (or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) will form the basis for what we talk about on that day. See you there? Barry > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Minshall > Sent: 27 August 2004 16:31 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: FW: RE: [BD] Re: Tour Structure etc > > Has UKUA considered inviting teams (from Tour A, Tour B, > Mixed, Womens, GB) to each send in one brief one page report > on how the current structure affects them, and how they would > recommend the current playing structure be developed? > > To give time for teams to discuss individually, this could be > deadlined for end September/October, and the UKUA board can > then use this to assess how next year will look. > > Personally I think the pinnacle for the game as a whole > should be our top club and national teams compete at their > best level at the top competitions (Worlds, Euro comps etc), > but the above could give everyone a say. > > Or am I causing far too much work and being just too diplomatic? > > For Laughable Niche Sports, I don't think you can beat > 'Underwater Hockey'. > > Alex > The Prince Of Leisure > EMO#34 > > > >From: "Alex Bowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: [BD] Re: Tour Structure etc > >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:59:30 +0100 > > > >Well actually playing Abstract first up at T3 was positively > refreshing > >in light of having to line up against Rob Chevron-Mitchell's > grizzled > >face for the 15th time this year.. > > > >alex > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >On Behalf Of Tom Styles > >Sent: 27 August 2004 14:50 > >To: Ben Heywood; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: [BD] Re: Tour Structure etc > > > >Ben, > > > >The tour was invented to push the top teams further. That's > it's whole > >purpose, the moment it stops doing that it stops being useful. > > > >With respect to your team, while I'm sure you gained a lot > from playing > >clapham, ask yourself who much they got from playing against > you? It's > >not a nice thought, but needs to be considered. > > > >Cheers > > > >Tom > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Ben Heywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: 27 August 2004 14:39 > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: [BD] Re: Tour Structure etc > > > >Am I just being daft here (don't answer that) or is > everybody lumping > >the two issues together? > > > >I'm all for a shorter season, but I don't want to see a > reduced number > >of tours. Sure, the clapham guys probably only played five different > >opponents all year and I can see why they're bored, but tours are > >brilliant for us. We played virtually everyone from 1st to > 16th at some > >stage (except Fusion and Chevy, I think), and it was great. > And there > >was still plenty of time for us to go to Britopen and Brugges and > >glastonbury and all the rest if we wanted to. If it ain't > broke, just > >change the dates and leave the number of tournaments alone. > > > >Where are new challengers to the same old four or five teams > going to > >come from, if not the tour? > > > >(In terms of the need to expand women's ultimate, you're > spot on. And I > >think splitting the season will do exactly that.) > > > >Benji > > > > > > >Just a random collection of thoughts on what i think are the > > >positives of splitting the tours and reducing the events: > > > > > >The mixed scene would benefit from the top players taking part. It > > >would improve the standard of games and help develop > players of both > > >genders at all levels. Whilst the men's and women's tour is run at > > >the same time of year as the mixed, less players will > participate in > > >one or > > > > >the other (most likely the mixed). Also the perception is that the > > >mixed game brings more women into ultimate, so if we place > a greater > > >emphasis on mixed (i.e. its own time of year) this will eventually > > >bring more women into the women's tour that will be played > alongside > >the open tour. > > > > > >I think separating the tours would encourage us to play with > > >different people (and abilities) at the mixed events. It > would also > > >give a more relaxed introduction to the season, and so give a less > > >strenuous season > > > > >overall, both physically and mentally (which clearly was > problem at > > >worlds). A competitve open season will lead to a higher > standard of > > >play, and a higher development rate. > > > > > >If the amount of tours played is less, (three tours and Nationals) > > >there would be room for tour teams to play in open > tournaments like > > >the > > > > >Brit Open, which generally has pick up teams, and in my opinion > > >should be something more like the Coca Cola Cup. An open > format will > > >give the lower teams an opportuninty to put themselves up > against the > > >best. Less > > > > >tours would give players an opening to attend tournaments like the > > >Durham Hat for instance. > > > > > >The focus of our attention should be on helping to increase the > > >womens player base in Britain and trying to help the womens tour > > >resemble the open in size (and in the long run standard). > > > > > >Scando > > > > > >Clapham > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >BritDisc mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > >Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp > > > >The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity > >to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged > >material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other use of, > >or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information > by persons or > >entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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