I think the B tour this time around was 3 or 4 x 45mins + caps, then 3 x 60mins 
+ caps.

Whilst I agree that this imbalance is not ideal, I think it has been discussed 
a great deal around Tour 1 that there is only so much pitch time to be shared 
around at each event this year. The facts are this year the venues are a little 
bit too small for the numbers of teams entering, and next year bids will have 
to face up to this.

I would like to imagine that at Tour 4 this year (with split venues) we may end 
up being able to have more pitch time all around, because of greater numbers of 
pitches. (Obviously I could be proved wrong by someone clever like JP, because 
there is more than that to scheduling) Hopefully the silver-lining of the 
pitch-time-cloud is that it must mean more teams entering the Women's & B tours 
than before, and a kick up the backside to more people to find venues for tour 
events next year.

I guess that changes to costs could be a fairer way of reflecting the 
difference if the pitch time itself is seen as a fait accompli. It would mean 
ending up with tournament fees being along the lines of �200 for A, �125 for B 
& women's instead of �160 say. Is �200 a bad deal anyway, considering it is 
split to less than �15 for 15 people. (tournament fees are always the cheapest 
part of the weekend anyway)

Andy
UTB

PS I will save this email for after Tour 3, when the same discussion starts 
again.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aura Mackenzie
Sent: 18 May 2005 11:38
To: Ultimate Frisbee
Subject: RE: [BD] Tour schedule

Maybe we could use this opportunity to address the imbalance in play time 
between the A, B and women's Tours too.  As described in previous posts to 
Britdisc, the situation as it stands is not fair.  At the moment:

A Tour (6 x 90 min) > B Tour (??) > Women's Tour (7 x 45-60 min)

I'd be happy with whatever change in schedule is deemed appropriate provided 
that the following is implemented if there are still big differences in pitch 
time:

***Have differences in cost for different divisions.  Relative costs could be 
determined by the UKUA according to the schedule and forwarded to TDs, who then 
set the entry fees accordingly.***

As another aside, the Women's final should also have a slot on its own so that 
others can watch.  I'd say alongside the Open final is fine and people can 
choose which game to watch or flitter between the two.  Both the Open and 
Women's finals showcase "the game at its highest standard" and feature some of 
the top teams in Europe.

Aura
Iceni


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