BD.

Perhaps being rude to the TD is 'unacceptable' - I am just amazed someone could find him to be rude to him. In my opinion having an empty organisational tent, or one staffed by someone who does not know what is going on is pretty unaceptable - especially when you change the schedule at midnight on the Saturday and, it seems, only bother informing half the teams.

We (BU2) were informed that our 10.15 start had changed to an 8.30 start at midnight on saturday. Aggrieved at the loss of a lie in, but looking forward to playing Devon 2 we duly turned up nice and early. On arrival we were informed, not by the TD (where was he... no-one knows), that we were in fact playing at 10.15 after all. We left the pitches to go and get some food (there are only so many burgers one can eat) only to discover, by studying a new schedule (with two groups- both helpfully labelled 'Group A') that we were in fact playing at 9.

Many thanks to GB Juniors U-17 for not taking points of us for our late arrival, and allowing us time to warm up. No thanks to any of the organisers for dicking us around.

I had a great tournament with lots of spirited, competitve Ultimate - thanks to all the teams we played. However, almost nothing about the structure/infrastructure of this tournament was acceptable (see preceding emails from those unfortunate enough to be at this B tour event).

I didn't even see the TD, except when he was playing/captaining his team so didn't have any opportunity to be rude. I can understand the frustration of anyone who was though. Perhaps splitting the tour is sometimes necessary - I'm certainly not happy about it if it results in the B tour getting fucked over though.

All my own work, not views of team etc.  Apologies for length, girth...

Peedo
Brighton Ultimate 2

P.s. Props to Hot Dog/Tugs for putting us up AND letting us use his GSK table.

p.ps. How was relying on a team playing in the tourny filling up the water ever expected to work? Were they also responsible for the non-existent rubbish bags/bins. I'm not being rude to anyone here, but as Nick notes its not possible to deal with water provision in between playing, warming up/down, trying to find something other than burgers to eat etc. Perhaps it's also not possible to run a tour event whilst captaining one of the teams hoping to be promoted to the Atour too...



From: "nick sampson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BD] Tour 1 B
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:08:52 +0000


BD,

I am not going to comment on many of the issues that have been raised by some people on the group.

However, I was suprised that the first tour event of the year had a schedule that seemed to be based on having seadings correctly done - i believe they were done on last yrs nationals - and to make top 8 you had to win your group with no crossovers for teams that had come 2nd in their pool - especially the 2 unfortunate teams that ended up with fire 2 in their group! Like Kev i know the DoC had three seperate tournaments running this weekend and was in charge of schedules for all of them which is a lot of work for anyone.

As with the lucky huckers we turned up on sunday morning thinking we were playing abstract 2 after loosing what turned out to be the "head to head" match with them. Instead it seems that we won the group due to our goals difference, I might be wrong but i thought pool positions are done on the head to head match? I dont know how this happened but if rules like this are not clear to everyone can things like this be put on the ukua website?

I am sorry if some teams played games without their water container filled, the juniors filled up as many as we could find throughout the weekend when we were not playing or warming up/down.

I was very disappointed to hear that someone had been rather rude to the TD during sunday about some of the issues. Coming over and shouting at someone when you're not happy simply isnt acceptable in my opinion and being constructive and finding solutions to any problems you have is a lot more productive.

Thanks to all the teams that we played over the weekend and Ed,


Nick
GB junior Manager



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