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----- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 7 September, 2006 10:28:32 AM Subject: BritDisc Digest, Vol 36, Issue 8 Send BritDisc mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BritDisc digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Copa Confusion ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. Galstonbury (Dan Berry) 3. How to improve on 2006 in 2007? (Wayne Retter (aka Wrecker)) 4. Lift to Glasto (Oscar) 5. NATIONALS RESULTS (WOMENS) (hannah easter) 6. Re: Copa Cabana (Dan Knapp) 7. Winter Leagues 2006/2007 (Wayne Retter (aka Wrecker)) 8. stupid copa emails.... (Stuart Burkett) 9. posting to the list (Chris McManus) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 12:32:23 +0100 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [BD] Copa Confusion To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Umm, yeah, can someone clear up the Copa e-mails please. I read the first e-mail as praise. The second as a massive error. A bit unfortuante that the second e-mail went to every Ultimate player in the country....ouch pugh lucky31 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:42:03 +0100 From: "Dan Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [BD] Galstonbury To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, If none of the idiots in your team have a car, how can you get down to Glastonbury? According to the intellectual titans I play with, trains don't really go there. Is this true? Or are they lying? Any advice, useful or otherwise would be greatly appreciated. Thanking. Berry7. Flaming Galahs. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:34:31 +0100 From: "Wayne Retter \(aka Wrecker\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [BD] How to improve on 2006 in 2007? To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" So, the 2006 UKUA sanctioned Mixed, Open and Womens seasons are now officially complete. Despite a year in which there have been more players, in greater numbers of teams, exhibiting an overall improved level of play than ever before, it would appear that a major 'highlight' of the year on Britdisc have been the complaints over last-minute provision of Open Tour and Nationals schedules, and then the demands that these schedules place upon the participants. As someone that has historically been involved in tournament organisation, I am aware that writing a schedule can be a tricky task for a tournament organiser. Generally, given that the TD knows how many fields and how much playing time they have available, the factor that causes most problems is the number of teams attending, and trying to concoct a format that works for that number without straying too far from the guidelines. It seems to me that the organisers have been unable to write/publish the schedules in a timely manner because, for each event, there have been several teams who have been either indecisive about whether to enter, or poorly organised when it comes to sending their money/entry. It also seems to me that, for whatever reasons, the organisers have been willing to wait as long as possible for those additional entries. 2007 B Tour To aid in the scheduling, I would propose that the current B division be restricted to specific numbers of teams (multiples of 4), with prewritten formats and schedules. e.g. If there are 23 teams entered on the closing date (4 weeks before the event, according to the Tour Rules), one week be allowed to find a 24th team to use a 24 team schedule, or the tournament is restricted to a 20 team format/schedule. It seems to me that it ought to be possible to write these schedules (it they haven't already been written and stored somewhere?), for various numbers of pitches, over the winter, so that they are instantly available to chose/publish when the tournament entry closing date ? 2007 Open Nationals It seems to me that, since the format of Nationals was moved to a 32 team knockout a few years back, we've possibly never had 32 teams attend Nationals!?! This obviously leads to the inevitable (but probably not unwelcome) byes in the schedule for the top teams on Saturday mornings, but more unfortunately, leads to byes later in the schedule, when the games would have perhaps been more meaningful. I would suggest that the format of Nationals be reconsidered - I heard an interesting proposal over the weekend, involving 2 divisions of 16 in 'open' (rather than 'peer') pools, over 3 days, with crossovers between the divisions, but I forget exactly... As announced in the June 2006 UKUA Member Update, the provisional calendar for 2007 is on the UKU website (in an Excel spreadsheet). It looks like this: Mar 03+04 10+11 17+18 Sat - Skills Day 24+25 Apr *07+08* Paganello @ Rimini Beach 14+15 UKUA Tournament 21+22 28+29 UKUA Tournament May 05+06* Tom's Tournoi @ Brugges 12+13 19+20 UKUA Tournament 26+27* Harbour Ultimate @ Rotterdam Jun 02+03 UKUA Tournament 09+10 Sat - Skills Day 16+17 UKUA Tournament 23+24 30+01 Jul 07+08 UKUA Tournament 14+15 21+22 28+29 EFDF EUC2007 Aug 04+05 EFDF EUC2007 11+12 18+19 UKUA Tournament 25+26* Sep 01+02 UKUA Tournament 08+09 15+16 22+23 Oct 01+02 07+08 Sat - Skills Day 14+15 21+22 28+30 Note that I have added the UK Bank Holidays as * --- Wayne Retter wayne[dot]wrecker[at]ntlworld[dot]com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 05/09/2006 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:19:49 +0100 From: Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [BD] Lift to Glasto To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Is anybody travelling from the North via Nottingham/J25 of the M1 with room for 1 (possibly 2) house/car trained FlyghtClubbers? We can offer wit, charm, funny stories and, if all that fails, petrol money and alcoholic beverages. If you can help please give me a text on 07843679638. Cheers, Oscar. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:04:12 +0100 (BST) From: hannah easter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [BD] NATIONALS RESULTS (WOMENS) To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 RESULTS OF WOMENS NATIONALS Well here we are again the end of another season! Rather disappointingly Nationals was again under subscribed due to last minute drop outs (we did have 31 teams!). However the finals and semis in both divisions were very EXCITING! The main hickup of the weekend was caused by teams leaving early, but not informing the TD of their finishing position! ;) no one is to blame for this especially considering the freek rain shower! Could the Open teams please email me with their finishing position so that we have a complete record! WOMENS 1ST Iceni 1 2ND Bliss 3RD LLL 4TH Bristol 5TH Iceni 2 6TH Swift 7TH LTD 8TH MU 9TH Discuits MVP of the womens final was Diana Worman --------------------------------- The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider.From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 06 17:22:38 2006 Received: from bay0-omc2-s41.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.177]) by bethel.ranulf.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GL0Af-00007P-R2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:22:38 +0100 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.174.16]) by bay0-omc2-s41.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:20:10 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Sep 2006 09:20:09 -0700 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from 65.54.174.200 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:20:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [86.136.147.183] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "karl bater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Bcc: Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:20:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2006 16:20:09.0852 (UTC) FILETIME=[52C283C0:01C6D1D0] Cc: Subject: [BD] stupid copa emails.... X-BeenThere: [email protected] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Information about UK disc sports <britdisc.ranulf.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mailman.ranulf.net/pipermail/britdisc> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yea this will make me seem like a misery, but I dont care. Any chance that people will stop wasting my time, the time of others, and thier own time by sending useless crap like the current "copa" thread? I dont think im the only one who doesnt want thier inbox filled with crap, most of which is one liners. If you want to send it, why not reply to an individual and save me the bother of deleting your "witty" banter? Oh, yes I do understand the irony of the situation where now I am the one filling inboxes, but I dont care. _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:38:13 +0100 From: "Dan Knapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [BD] Copa Cabana To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Friends, Romans and Countrymen (not that Steve bloke, he's got the Canananadian lurkie), I was not aware of the presence of incredidog, and therefore feel compelled to retract my claim that we could have been murdered in our beds. Only a fool would believe that they were at any risk. If I have offended incredidog, his family or fans of his work, I most sincerely apologise. I'm aware of the research into drunkeness and it's socially benevolent sideaffects, but I was not aware that it had been so thoroughly accepted throughout the government sector. Since Steve's email I have of course done my homework (as I should have the first time), and I would like to offer apologies (again) for any offence caused. If anyone is interested, I point them to research articles such as those below for further reading: - I. P. Knightly's treatise, "Drink Alcohol, Wet the Bed, Grow Cress, End World Hunger" - I. C. Two O'Yas "Alcohol and it's wonderous effects on eyesight" and of course who could forget (as I did), Piers D'offyourface's seminal work, "Alcohol: The Next Best Thing Since Sliced Kebabs?" I'd like to rebuke Jennifer's claim that I should have warmed up and warmed down. Everyone knows that warming up and down is only something that professional athletes do in order to pose for the cameras. You think those buttock-clenching stretchs are really needed? Nor do I. Jeff Capes would be ashamed. So to summise, I would like to offer my apologies to anyone who was offended by my outlandish claims, consider my tail (well, pathetically small penis) firmly between my legs. Steve, I believe I owe you, Tom and Deno particularly heartfelt apologies. Consider my firstborn yours to share. Dan >From: "Steve G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Jennifer Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BD] Copa Cabana >Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:04:24 +0100 > >Dear Dan and BD, > >On behalf of the organisers (to use the term generously) I would like >to address your concerns about the Copa Cabana (Where the Stars Come >Out) Tournament. > >I'll first address your well thought points. Thank you for numbering >these Dan as it makes my counterpoints easier to follow. > >1. First of all it was admittedly quite a lot of Ultimate. Most teams >had 12 games over the long weekend. I will defend this though in >saying that the quality of Ultimate was very low. I'd hesitate to >even say that some of it was even "Ultimate". I think pioneers of the >sport like Joel Silver would have been upset to have such a word >associated with some of the on pitch performances that weekend. Given >we charged a whopping £130 as well we did feel it necessary to give >players the appropriate amount of pitch time that would be expected >from such an outrageous fee. Lets take this past weekend for example. >£180 entry and some teams only got 3 games and one day of play and >many others only 4 games! Now Dan you might moan that this was not >enough Ultimate (blah blah blah). This was Nationals and as such the >best Ultimate the UK had to offer. To pay £60 per game is a bargain >to play at that level. That is why at the Copa, knowing in advance >the quality of play, we had to pack the schedule to get to same >perceived value for money. To make matters more complex, teams that >come to the Copa tend to have upwards of 25 to 30 members due to the >limited number of teams we can accommodate against the massive number >of people wanting to attend. If your team had less than 20 people I'm >sorry. Perhaps if you didn't complain so much you'd have a few more >friends. I think also you need to understand that the Ultimate >during the day is really just a stall tactic we setup to allow us time >to construct the Stage and the Sumo pit, cook a 75Kg pig for the >massive free dinner, clean up and restore and decorate the Copa Cabana >Marquee and the list is endless. We need that time to prepare each >evening. You are not required to actually play during that time but >it's a great way to make the day go by quickly while you wait for the >evening festival atmosphere to kick off. > >2. Perhaps this is a cultural difference between Nottingham and the >rest of the World. The Nottingham City Council does in fact encourage >binge drinking as it keep the gun wielding gangs (typically 'jazzed' >on crack) at bay. Since the council's recent 'Get Drunk!' campaign >gun violence and "tent death" have dropped significantly. As for >partying until 8:30am, when did these people begin partying? If they >started at 1am this seems reasonable. Some people started partying at >8:30am, partied for 13 1/2 hours and went to bed at 10pm! Is this >then acceptable? Outside of putting a punch clock on the door of the >Copa tent....hmmm....right anyways, we can't be everyone's mommy but >do try our best to be the "Daddy". Either way at 8:30am the >organisers (again using the term loosely) were too busy serving >breakfast, and restoring the highly visible Lookfly port-a-fields in >preparation a too much Ultimate to be monitoring individual party >performance. As for your comment about Bovril we'll take that on >board for next year. At the very least we'll try to get Bisto to >attend. > >3. See comment above about the Nottingham City Council "Get Drunk!" >campaign. > >4. Regarding this we were as disappointed as you that the game >featuring the closest matching team kit was the naked game at midnight >under the lights. Perhaps next year making the Copa an all nude event >is the only option. > >5. Hey don't do that Dan...we love your moaning. We love even more >our good friend Jen from Mental Discs who's counter-moaned your >moaning. Although her reply does address the issues we the organisers >(ok I'm really pushing it now) thought it best to reply directly, >openly and approachably as TDs have reliably done to address all >complaints throughout the 2006 season. And yes...taking Ultimate >seriously is what we're all about at Flyght Club, surely that goes >without argument. > >6. Actually there were 4 dogs there at the weekend and given the fact >the one of the attending dogs was actually incredi-dog we felt that >allergic reactions were a small price to pay for the warm fuzzy >feeling of protection brought to the event by the attendance of such a >celebrity dog with super powers. > >So in closing I hope all those who did attend the Copa Cabana 2006 >tournament had a great time in spite of all of the obvious problems >with the event. As usual the planning for next years event is already >underway so more public moaning is encouraged to help us bring the >Copa ever closer to the elusive 'perfect tournament'. If you have any >complaints, praise or suggestions for 2007 there is a forum on the >website for such things (although I suggest going public on BD with >complaints). > >http://www.thecopa.co.uk >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Best Regards, >The guys who do stuff to make the Copa happen >ps...a proper tournament report is forthcoming ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:17:52 +0100 From: "Wayne Retter \(aka Wrecker\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [BD] Winter Leagues 2006/2007 To: "'Britdisc'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" NWL have announced theor intention to be more organised this year, LWLC are getting into the swing of LWL again, Are there going to be any other Winter Leagues this year? Bristol/SouthWest/Midlands all spring to mind as viable? --- Wayne Retter wayne[dot]wrecker[at]ntlworld[dot]com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 05/09/2006 ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:25:57 +0100 From: "Stuart Burkett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [BD] stupid copa emails.... To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If you don't want your inbox clogged up, why not unsubscribe from britdisc and then just browse the archive (http://mailman.ranulf.net/pipermail/britdisc/) once a day. You can then pick and choose which emails to read. Ronnie ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 20:14:04 +0100 From: "Chris McManus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [BD] posting to the list To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed A serious plea for a ride to the Glastonbury tourney. I could get myself to Bath, Bristol, a train station in general. Anybody?????I'll pay my share I swear!!! 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