Whilst I Iargely agree with you, Tom, I'm inclined to think that in this
instance perhaps it isn't in the best interest to have a "full and frank
debate by the UK Ultimate community". A number of reasons for this:

1) The vast majority of the UK Ultimate community wasn't present to witness
the events as they unfolded;

2) I'm not sure it's particularly constructive to invite the Ultimate
community at large to offer their posthumous, much considered judgments on
decisions made in the heat of the moment by a young player or players in a
more pressured, higher level game than most of us will ever be dedicated or
talented enough to participate in;

3) Although I don't know Nick Sampson personally, I've no doubt whatsoever
that your opinion of him is correct, and therefore the best way for everyone
concerned to learn and move on in the most productive way is almost
certainly for Nick and his team to follow their own, internal course
of discussion / action / whatever, and it's for Nick to decide whether he
wants further input, and if so from whom. Discussion on Britdisc will only
make his job harder.

Knowing what Britdisc is like, if we're not careful then the only points
that get discussed at any length from the Euros will be the negative ones,
and it would be a crying shame if a brilliantly organised tournament
that saw outstanding performances and results from all of our representative
teams ended up being remembered by anyone for website issues or kangaroo
courts.

On a final note, the thoughts above are mine and my own, but I'm sure I
speak on behalf of all of my teammates in congratulating all of our players
and the tournament staff who made it such a cracking tournament, props to
you all.

Pablo
-- 3 --
Flaming Galahs


On 8/8/07, Tom Styles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Alternative Voice,
>
> Whilst I welcome follow players sending out information to the
> Ultimate community particularly of this high standard, it must said
> that it it the lowest form of journalistic cowardice to hide behind
> anonymity while openly criticising one the UKU's most passionate
> volunteers, Nick Sampson GB juniors coach.
>
> You have articulated your point clearly and you are perfectly entitled
> to your opinion, but only if you write your name at the bottom of your
> email.
>
> The incident involving the GB Juniors and the Austrian team is worthy
> of a full and frank debate by the UK ultimate community, it raises key
> questions about conduct, responsibility of players and coaches, and of
> course spirit. These are important issues. If you have something to
> say as part of that debate then say it, but don't hide behind frosted
> glass.
>
> Get some bottle, tell us who you are, and get credit for the good work
> you've done..
>
> Yours
> Tom Styles (Original Voice)
>
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